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Post by BatFonz on Jul 24, 2014 17:04:54 GMT -5
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Post by Mighty Milton on Jul 26, 2014 13:32:21 GMT -5
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Post by IncredibleD on Jul 26, 2014 13:45:52 GMT -5
Yeah i just saw it on IGN.
All i can say about the costume is that i thought it would look worse, however i do think she looks too skinny.
What i'm really interested in though is seeing the footage of that teaser trailer, that description sounds awesome!
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Post by Tony on Jul 26, 2014 14:56:13 GMT -5
Her outfit is very Xena, but with even less color.
Also: heels.
#goddamnyouSnyder
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Post by iamasianbatgirl on Jul 26, 2014 16:05:41 GMT -5
She looks pretty badass although I have seen better cosplay Wonder Woman pics. The heels definitely turn me off from this whole design but like people have said before, it could have been worse. I don't have much faith that they'll do her character justice so I'll hope for the best but keep my expectations low.
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Post by Tony on Jul 26, 2014 17:02:00 GMT -5
She looks pretty badass although I have seen better cosplay Wonder Woman pics. The heels definitely turn me off from this whole design but like people have said before, it could have been worse. I don't have much faith that they'll do her character justice so I'll hope for the best but keep my expectations low. "it could have been worse" should be the tagline for the entire Nolan/Goyer/now-Snyder-verse, barr-Dark Knight. Which makes me sad. We should demand better; much, much better. And you're right, i've seen better cosplay (which is the same thing that bugs me to no end about movie-Mystique), which is both a complement to those cosplayers, and also a serious criticism of the designers on these movies. |
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Post by Tony on Jul 26, 2014 17:16:26 GMT -5
By no means am I saying the Lynda Carter outfit or the NBC pilot outfit were any good (by NO means), and armor is always going to be a considerable step-up from bloomers, but, fuck me, why so drab? I mean, I know 'why'; they can't help themselves at this point, they're so locked-in to this sort of look, but . . just . . gahhhh. Will there ever be any joy in Mudville? Is Aquaman also going to be adorned in various browns and pewters? Monochrome Arrow, and Grey Lantern? Where do you draw the line?  |
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Post by Bob Reyer on Jul 26, 2014 18:44:46 GMT -5
I'm OK with most of the "nuts'n'bolts" design elements, but would using a little color have killed anyone? Excepting that we know that it's Wonder Woman, in those earth tones there's very little to mark Ms. Gadot as the Amazon Princess.
Perhaps in the actual film the costume will be a bit more color-saturated?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 18:45:20 GMT -5
It makes no sense for her costume to be the exact red/white/blue colours when this is likely an introduction to her character into the universe. Why would an Amazon Princess be wearing American Flag colours. She'll probably adopt a more colour costume in the Justice League. Armour is armour, not a flag. As for the heels, she's worn them in a lot of the comics, and in the cartoons. Bruce Timm drew her in them. So if the argument is that this costume is taking too much inspiration from all the various Wonder Woman depictions, then you'd be right. Whats funny is this style of armour is what male soldiers use to wear in actual history. So saying its too revealing is just ridiculous. This makes more sense than a JMS leather jacket
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Post by Bob Reyer on Jul 26, 2014 19:06:07 GMT -5
It makes no sense for her costume to be the exact red/white/blue colours when this is likely an introduction to her character into the universe. Why would an Amazon Princess be wearing American Flag colours. She'll probably adopt a more colour costume in the Justice League. Armour is armour, not a flag. As for the heels, she's worn them in a lot of the comics, and in the cartoons. Bruce Timm drew her in them. So if the argument is that this costume is taking too much inspiration from all the various Wonder Woman depictions, then you'd be right. Whats funny is this style of armour is what male soldiers use to wear in actual history. So saying its too revealing is just ridiculous. This makes more sense than a JMS leather jacket Benjamin, I'm not unhappy with it on the whole, but the color pallete is awfully drab, and I think that the whole enterprise could use some "brighter bulbs", so to speak. ps) In the comics from the Forties that presented her origin, Wonder Woman dons the colors of the American flag as a matter of respect (and to identify herself as a "good guy" to a world that didn't know her!) when she's returning Steve Trevor to the US to begin her mission to help save humanity from the spectre of fascist rule. |
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Post by rcbtaw on Jul 26, 2014 19:31:09 GMT -5
Maybe this costume reflects Diana coming straight from Themiscyra. Maybe the look will change the longer she is around.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 20:49:46 GMT -5
It makes no sense for her costume to be the exact red/white/blue colours when this is likely an introduction to her character into the universe. Why would an Amazon Princess be wearing American Flag colours. She'll probably adopt a more colour costume in the Justice League. Armour is armour, not a flag. As for the heels, she's worn them in a lot of the comics, and in the cartoons. Bruce Timm drew her in them. So if the argument is that this costume is taking too much inspiration from all the various Wonder Woman depictions, then you'd be right. Whats funny is this style of armour is what male soldiers use to wear in actual history. So saying its too revealing is just ridiculous. This makes more sense than a JMS leather jacket Benjamin, I'm not unhappy with it on the whole, but the color pallete is awfully drab, and I think that the whole enterprise could use some "brighter bulbs", so to speak. ps) In the comics from the Forties that presented her origin, Wonder Woman dons the colors of the American flag as a matter of respect (and to identify herself as a "good guy" to a world that didn't know her!) when she's returning Steve Trevor to the US to begin her mission to help save humanity from the spectre of fascist rule. Yeah that's what I'm assuming will happen, she's introduced in this film coming straight from Themiscyra and then in the future, whether it be the JLA film or a solo film, will no doubt change to the American flag or at least a more bright version of her costume to look less soldier and more hero. It just starts to make me wonder where this all seeing all knowing directory containing measurements of Batmans ears, Supermans logo, Wonder Womans weight/heel height, is being stored and how thousands of people seem to have access to it and I don't. I just feel such a strong urge to jump to the defense of Zack Snyder because he's as much of a fan as all of us, just from a different perspective. Where somebody may have grown up reading the the Golden/Silver/Bronze/Heroic Ages of comics, he grew up reading Heavy Metal and 2000AD which holds as much of a standing in comics as Archie does, just a complete different spectrum. I refuse to believe that any one era of a character is the be all end all. Even look at the New 52. Superman from #1 is not the Superman we're reading now. I just feel such a childlike sense of excitement when I see all these things happening now and then I turn around and see a thousand people saying its not good enough. Makes you wonder how if even seeing the Trinity standing together in a film for the first time is not enough to make someone happy, what is? |
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Post by Bob Reyer on Jul 26, 2014 21:45:39 GMT -5
Benjamin, I'm not unhappy with it on the whole, but the color pallete is awfully drab, and I think that the whole enterprise could use some "brighter bulbs", so to speak. ps) In the comics from the Forties that presented her origin, Wonder Woman dons the colors of the American flag as a matter of respect (and to identify herself as a "good guy" to a world that didn't know her!) when she's returning Steve Trevor to the US to begin her mission to help save humanity from the spectre of fascist rule. Yeah that's what I'm assuming will happen, she's introduced in this film coming straight from Themiscyra and then in the future, whether it be the JLA film or a solo film, will no doubt change to the American flag or at least a more bright version of her costume to look less soldier and more hero. It just starts to make me wonder where this all seeing all knowing directory containing measurements of Batmans ears, Supermans logo, Wonder Womans weight/heel height, is being stored and how thousands of people seem to have access to it and I don't. I just feel such a strong urge to jump to the defense of Zack Snyder because he's as much of a fan as all of us, just from a different perspective. Where somebody may have grown up reading the the Golden/Silver/Bronze/Heroic Ages of comics, he grew up reading Heavy Metal and 2000AD which holds as much of a standing in comics as Archie does, just a complete different spectrum. I refuse to believe that any one era of a character is the be all end all. Even look at the New 52. Superman from #1 is not the Superman we're reading now. I just feel such a childlike sense of excitement when I see all these things happening now and then I turn around and see a thousand people saying its not good enough. Makes you wonder how if even seeing the Trinity standing together in a film for the first time is not enough to make someone happy, what is? Benjamin, One of the nagging problems plaguing super-hero films is that film-makers have to try to create a "greatest hits" package in some ways, finding the best moments from decades of continuity and trying to get them to fit together. However, from writers and directors there might be one set of "must-haves", while in the audience, there might be very differing views as to what those moments should be. These sorts of issues can certainly affect how different segments of the movie-going audience, critics, and film-makers come to such disparate opinions on a single film. I certainly agree with you that Mr. Snyder's view of Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman is forged by the versions that he read, but particularly when introducing characters, the original creator's ideas are the best, unless overwhelmingly proved otherwise. This isn't to suggest that we should see WW II versions of all these icons, but there were timeless core values that kept these heroes "on-model", and I believe that those need to be adhered to above all else. There are flaws in the Marvel films as well, but both the Toby Maguire and Andrew Garfield Spider-Man (and Peter) seem like the Stan Lee/Steve Ditko/John Romita character that I grew up with in the books, and for all the hub-bub over audiences not relating because of it possibly seeming "old-fashioned", the core attributes of Captain America as portrayed by Chris Evans seem to have connected with today's "more sophisticated" audience. For me, it's about trusting the source material above all else! |
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Post by rosscarter on Jul 28, 2014 11:17:09 GMT -5
I bet it will be more colorful when it's realized on screen. That picture has very stylized lighting making it almost sepia-toned. Even her skin-tone is void of realistic color in the picture, so I don't think we can trust this stylized picture to give us an accurate look at the color of her costume, just the detail
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Post by Bob Reyer on Jul 28, 2014 16:44:35 GMT -5
I bet it will be more colorful when it's realized on screen. That picture has very stylized lighting making it almost sepia-toned. Even her skin-tone is void of realistic color in the picture, so I don't think we can trust this stylized picture to give us an accurate look at the color of her costume, just the detail Hey Ross, It's funny you mention that! This is not official, but over at deviantart, a fellow posting as "valdezign" has put up a"colorized" version of Ms. Gadot as Diana; it still has some problems (the upside-down head-piece, for instance), but the color really sells her as Wonder Woman, I think:  |
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