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Post by lennyreid on Oct 2, 2015 5:58:50 GMT -5
I agree with supersmoothers, I've finished a couple of the tie-ins and the endings were good, but they seem to be left open ended or just completely irrelevant. The Inhuman ending was supremely irritating to me. I won't spoil it with specifics, but man what a let down. The frustrating thing is I've enjoyed the event, but it seems like Marvel is more worried about trying to read the market and is scared to commit to a direction for these characters. After seeing some of the endings, I am now afraid for the rest of the books involved. I hate investing time into a book or character and then feeling no sense of closure at the end, it's just irritating. I quite enjoyed the Inhuman ending. I thought it said a lot about the Black Bolt/Medusa relationship and worked as an insight in to the way Charles Soule sees their coupling. I do get how it might seem like a cop-out though. I've only been reading Attilan Rising and A-Force. Both are very good but the stakes are low going in, as we know this status-quo is being bulldozed after 5 issues.
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Post by toxicsooner on Oct 2, 2015 11:26:29 GMT -5
I agree with supersmoothers, I've finished a couple of the tie-ins and the endings were good, but they seem to be left open ended or just completely irrelevant. The Inhuman ending was supremely irritating to me. I won't spoil it with specifics, but man what a let down. The frustrating thing is I've enjoyed the event, but it seems like Marvel is more worried about trying to read the market and is scared to commit to a direction for these characters. After seeing some of the endings, I am now afraid for the rest of the books involved. I hate investing time into a book or character and then feeling no sense of closure at the end, it's just irritating. I quite enjoyed the Inhuman ending. I thought it said a lot about the Black Bolt/Medusa relationship and worked as an insight in to the way Charles Soule sees their coupling. I do get how it might seem like a cop-out though. I've only been reading Attilan Rising and A-Force. Both are very good but the stakes are low going in, as we know this status-quo is being bulldozed after 5 issues. I loved the story and dynamic between medusa & black bolt was great. I think that is why the ending frustrated me as much as it did. If the last couple of pages hadn't pulled back the curtain on the story I would have been happier.
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Post by pacino on Nov 17, 2015 9:09:26 GMT -5
Sooooooo much payoff to Black Panther in issue 7 and coming up in issue 8, I think. Just such a good end to Hickman's run on Marvel stuff.
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Post by BarefootRoot on Nov 18, 2015 14:56:21 GMT -5
I thought #7 was a dud. apparently I didn't read the right tie-ins to have any context for what happened in this issue, which is weird because I read way more than I had originally planned. The biggest surprise for me was the Maestro showing up, considering the end of Future Imperfect, but apparently this was a different Maestro from Greenland given his entrance.
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Post by jonathansoko on Nov 19, 2015 23:14:27 GMT -5
After issue 7, i've made a conscious decision to just quit reading this stuff. I could not be more happy that Hickmans reign is nearly over... Im ready for better and brighter times
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Post by koolkomedian on Jan 13, 2016 15:13:54 GMT -5
So anyone else feel entirely let down by this ending?
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Post by BarefootRoot on Jan 13, 2016 16:25:15 GMT -5
So anyone else feel entirely let down by this ending? so this feels not-very-productive and a bit snarky, but it might kind of answer what you're asking: I don't know because i stopped reading it after issue 7.
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Post by klynngullo on Jan 14, 2016 16:33:53 GMT -5
So anyone else feel entirely let down by this ending? Yeah, pretty much. Not too happy with the fate of the Richards family. Yes, at least they survived, but I'd prefer them to be in the Marvel Universe, not overseeing it. And, despite what Marvel proclaimed, the event has yet to really feel like it "changed the Marvel Universe forever." I wasn't looking for a re-boot, but would have like to feel as if it had some effect other than bringing Miles and Old Man Logan to the current universe. Most of the books I'm reading simply picked up from where they left off, which isn't a bad thing, just maybe a bit of a disappointment after all of their hype. But the event itself, like most of the recent events, started with a bang, limped to a whimper and all-in-all was pretty dull.
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Post by toxicsooner on Jan 15, 2016 0:06:25 GMT -5
So anyone else feel entirely let down by this ending? That's it, I'm done... I'm officially done buying Marvel comics!!! I will keep my unlimited account and sample a couple of books here and there, but when it comes to giving them money on a weekly basis... No longer happening. What a colossal let down, not to mention a huge waste of money and time. And, to think when I started listening to this podcast and posting on this forum I was a marvel only guy. It's a sad day, thank god for Image, Boom, and Darkhorse.
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Post by BatFonz on Jan 15, 2016 8:54:59 GMT -5
It just wasn't great... at all.
It didn't blow your mind with the smartness of concept so its then relying on the 'familiar faces in an unfamiliar way' elseworlds concept to keep you interested but nothing was so good in terms of new persona / design that I left thinking Man I hope they survive somehow into the MCU. Everyone has different opinions of events but if you aren't going to deliver on either of the above then at least have some fun with it! AoA had issues but they really did have such fun with the MCU in terms of design & personas.
The problem with all these Event books nowadays is that they aren't strong on story within the main title, so much of the interesting stuff is happening off panel in the tie-in books that the main series feels weak and devoid of any breathtaking action.
I'm a sucker for events but Marvel did have me back up to 4 titles a month from none but stuff like this makes me think I'll go the MU route too.
I am still waiting for one of the big 2 to create a 12 issue series [or ongoing] that touches multiple areas of their universe, tells an interesting tale and doesn't claim to change everything but more showcases the depth of interesting characters they have which can't maintain a monthly book.
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Post by BarefootRoot on Jan 15, 2016 9:43:58 GMT -5
I don't know, I had really hoped the new runaways book could have kept going and future imperfect had potential...
But coming out the other end nothing felt really shaken up. Everything kind of picked up where it left off as if secret wars had never happened.
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Post by Cruu on Jan 15, 2016 16:15:33 GMT -5
I finished SW# 9 last night and the first thought I had when putting it down was..."meh." That said, my overall impression was that some of the tie in books were better than the main title. I enjoyed books like Old Man Logan, Future Imperfect, Renew Your Vows, and A-Force more than the main title itself.
Since finishing I can't help but wonder why Secret Wars was delayed and needed an additional issue before it was all said and done. They definitely gave us "fillers", but I didn't feel Hickman did a good job outlining this core story (editors included). I could easily seen this as a 12 issue series IF they were able to bring a little more depth and more action. I don't know if I missed something, but what about Dr. Strange's astral body hanging out with Punisher? Doom kills Strange, but nothing is really explained beyond that. That's just one of my peevs. Being an old school fan remembering how much fun it was to read the original SW back in the day I guess I had too high an expectation.
And the final payoff...new books at a higher price point with pretty much the status quo. For an "earth shattering event", Secret Wars felt very flat.
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Post by tundra on Jan 18, 2016 10:00:07 GMT -5
And the final payoff...new books at a higher price point with pretty much the status quo. For an "earth shattering event", Secret Wars felt very flat. Call me cynical (everyone does...) but it feels very much to me like the only thing of substance arising from this ending* is that the powers that be at Marvel stop needing to refer to the Earth where their main heroes exist by the designation 616 and get to call it 001 or prime instead. I actually didn't mind the ending in general (will steer clear of particular spoilers here), but this just smacks of a nomenclature change and nothing more. * This is making the pretty reasonable assumption that the Richards family will be back before too long.
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Post by pacino on Jan 19, 2016 13:12:26 GMT -5
I thought it was very good and a culmination of everything Hickman's written for Marvel. Guess I'm alone.
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Post by BarefootRoot on Jan 19, 2016 13:34:22 GMT -5
I think the reception may have been better if it had finished before or at the same time as all the ANAD titles launched. I think with ANAD coming out 2 months ahead of the event conclusion marvel kind of shot themselves in the foot. Personally I was keeping up with the main series and many of the tie ins, but then I found out more or less how the event ended by reading some of the ANAD books and so issues 8 and 9 became "budget-expendable" and I didn't bother getting them. I didn't mean to imply the event was bad (I actually enjoyed it quite a bit), just that they kind of spoiled the ending (along with the crazy delays), killing my interest in the final 2 issues.
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