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Post by Huw on Jan 7, 2015 10:31:42 GMT -5
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Post by IncredibleD on Jan 7, 2015 14:19:05 GMT -5
So this is gonna be an unpopular opinion but i'm not a fan of Sex Criminals.Don't like this kind of story and the art is overrated in my opinion, most of the backgrounds are fine, but i don't like the way the faces are drawn.Its been a while since i read the first couple of issues, so maybe i need to re read it and i will appreciate it more, but i wasn't impressed back when i read it.
Other than that i'm fine with all the books and people that got nominated, and i think you guys(and girl) did a good job!
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Post by toxicsooner on Jan 7, 2015 15:47:58 GMT -5
Sad to see Remender left off the list, but at least he made the discussion. I know for some his Marvel stuff leaves something to be desired, but I actually like his Cap and Uncanny Avengers. AXIS was a cool concept, but like most events the execution was so bad. All that said, his Image work is second to none, Deadly Class, Black Science, and Low are 3 of my favorite books.
And for those that jumped off Low early (Like I almost did), I would highly recommend reconsidering and catching up. The story really takes off with issue 3,and Stel the main character thus far, epitomizes strength and resilience.
Other than that, I can't really argue with the other nominations (well...I will if I get bored). Great job to our casters, cant wait to see how things shake out.
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Post by Tony on Jan 7, 2015 19:47:56 GMT -5
And for those that jumped off Low early (Like I almost did), I would highly recommend reconsidering and catching up. The story really takes off with issue 3,and Stel the main character thus far, epitomizes strength and resilience. True story. I love that book; yes, much of my love for it is because of Tocchini's art, which melts my face off and then proceeds to eat it for brunch in a very Rios-on-Pretty-Deadly or Ward-on-Ody-C or WilliamsIII-on-Sandman sort of way, but the story is also wild and heartfelt and spinning like a damn top, and it all works, for me. The Remender book that I don't get the love for is Deadly Class; that hasn't clicked for me, at all; it feels very trite, to me, and i'm not a fan of the art. But for Low and the phenomenal Black Science, alone, Rick had himself quite a year. |
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Post by tundra on Jan 8, 2015 1:57:22 GMT -5
And for those that jumped off Low early (Like I almost did), I would highly recommend reconsidering and catching up. The story really takes off with issue 3,and Stel the main character thus far, epitomizes strength and resilience. True story. I love that book; yes, much of my love for it is because of Tocchini's art, which melts my face off and then proceeds to eat it for brunch in a very Rios-on-Pretty-Deadly or Ward-on-Ody-C or WilliamsIII-on-Sandman sort of way, but the story is also wild and heartfelt and spinning like a damn top, and it all works, for me. The Remender book that I don't get the love for is Deadly Class; that hasn't clicked for me, at all; it feels very trite, to me, and i'm not a fan of the art. But for Low and the phenomenal Black Science, alone, Rick had himself quite a year. I wonder if this is in part down to the impact of first issues? I found the first issue of Deadly Class had a lot of impact (particularly the very striking art) but the series seems to have drifted a bit since, to my eye. On the other hand, I think a lot of people found Low #1 difficult to follow, but I think it's grown in focus with each issue since. I can't complain about the nominations in this episode, all of them deserve the recognition. I do have to wonder, though... In the year Fatale wrapped up, Velvet continued strongly and the Fade Out launched, what more does Ed Brubaker need to do to get a mention? |
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Post by CaptainSuperior on Jan 8, 2015 10:46:28 GMT -5
Sad to see Jason Aaron didn't make any of the list  |
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Post by jonathansoko on Jan 8, 2015 18:21:09 GMT -5
So this is gonna be an unpopular opinion but i'm not a fan of Sex Criminals.Don't like this kind of story and the art is overrated in my opinion, most of the backgrounds are fine, but i don't like the way the faces are drawn.Its been a while since i read the first couple of issues, so maybe i need to re read it and i will appreciate it more, but i wasn't impressed back when i read it. Other than that i'm fine with all the books and people that got nominated, and i think you guys(and girl) did a good job! Your not alone on the sex criminals thing, i didn't care for it either and i don't believe its worthy of standing next to alot of the other titles mentioned, but hey that's just me. I just feel that all of the opposing titles are superior in alot of ways. But thats alright, the beauty of it all is we can all appreciate things in different ways. If i was there, i would be fighting for books like Starlight, which you may hate. |
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Post by tundra on Jan 9, 2015 4:11:07 GMT -5
Sex Criminals doesn't quite work for me, either. Tried the first few issues but it just didn't grab me. Still, it's clearly well executed, so I'm happy other people are enjoying it enough to give it awards!
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Post by sammiecassell on Jan 9, 2015 14:27:09 GMT -5
Soooo sad Jason Aaron only got a mention, & Joshua Williamson was completely left off. & while I hear G.Willow is a wonderful person & Ms. Marvel is a phenominal book & groundbreaking, she only does one book that I can tell. Does her 1 beat Aaron's 3 awesome books? Just my two cents.
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Post by toxicsooner on Jan 9, 2015 17:01:14 GMT -5
So this is gonna be an unpopular opinion but i'm not a fan of Sex Criminals.Don't like this kind of story and the art is overrated in my opinion, most of the backgrounds are fine, but i don't like the way the faces are drawn.Its been a while since i read the first couple of issues, so maybe i need to re read it and i will appreciate it more, but i wasn't impressed back when i read it. Other than that i'm fine with all the books and people that got nominated, and i think you guys(and girl) did a good job! Your not alone on the sex criminals thing, i didn't care for it either and i don't believe its worthy of standing next to alot of the other titles mentioned, but hey that's just me. I just feel that all of the opposing titles are superior in alot of ways. But thats alright, the beauty of it all is we can all appreciate things in different ways. If i was there, i would be fighting for books like Starlight, which you may hate. So...I guess I got bored... I like sex criminals, I don't love it, but it makes me laugh. That being said, it's about the only thing Fraction is writing now that I enjoy. His writing is very hit or miss for me. Zdarsky's art is good and it fits the story well, but I could name at least 3 or 4 other artist that I feel are more derserving (oh look, I did...LOL). Just my opinion... Esad Ribic (Thor) Matteo Scalera (Black Science) Greg Capullo (Batman) Stjepen Sejic (Death Vigil, Sunstone, and soon to be Rat Queens) |
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Post by deadanchoress on Jan 10, 2015 12:49:30 GMT -5
Soooo sad Jason Aaron only got a mention, & Joshua Williamson was completely left off. & while I hear G.Willow is a wonderful person & Ms. Marvel is a phenominal book & groundbreaking, she only does one book that I can tell. Does her 1 beat Aaron's 3 awesome books? Just my two cents. Sammie, I think you just answered your own question within this post by saying, "I hear G.Willow is a wonderful person & Ms. Marvel is a phenomenal book & groundbreaking". There you have it. You know I love Thor, and think that it's one of the best books of the year - See my personal list for proof of that Steve Seigh's Favorite Comics of 2014. However, as incredible as Thor and Thor: God of Thunder were this year, I wouldn't say that it remained as impressionable on the comic book seen as Willow's Ms. Marvel. Kamala Khan was an icon overnight, who stands to be this generations Spider-Man as time goes on. I'm not so sure that Aaron's Thor can say that. Perhaps as the new female Thor comes into her own throughout 2015 we'll be singing a different tune come award season, but for now, and for me personally, G. Willow Wilson takes it. No question. Thanks so much for listening and for offering your opinion, which is always valued. Cheers! |
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Post by sammiecassell on Jan 10, 2015 17:43:07 GMT -5
Soooo sad Jason Aaron only got a mention, & Joshua Williamson was completely left off. & while I hear G.Willow is a wonderful person & Ms. Marvel is a phenominal book & groundbreaking, she only does one book that I can tell. Does her 1 beat Aaron's 3 awesome books? Just my two cents. Sammie, I think you just answered your own question within this post by saying, "I hear G.Willow is a wonderful person & Ms. Marvel is a phenomenal book & groundbreaking". There you have it. You know I love Thor, and think that it's one of the best books of the year - See my personal list for proof of that Steve Seigh's Favorite Comics of 2014. However, as incredible as Thor and Thor: God of Thunder were this year, I wouldn't say that it remained as impressionable on the comic book seen as Willow's Ms. Marvel. Kamala Khan was an icon overnight, who stands to be this generations Spider-Man as time goes on. I'm not so sure that Aaron's Thor can say that. Perhaps as the new female Thor comes into her own throughout 2015 we'll be singing a different tune come award season, but for now, and for me personally, G. Willow Wilson takes it. No question. Thanks so much for listening and for offering your opinion, which is always valued. Cheers! And to your point, I just caught up on XMen, and see that the aforementioned Ms. Wilson will be doing that book. I'll be interested to see how she handles that, especially with Monet on the team. I have not been a fan of the last arc, and while I've been a fan of Monet since her introduction in Generation X, I haven't liked her latest incarnation. Maybe she'll turn this book around and she'll prove (at least to me) that she belongs in the discussion of the best instead of just creating a great character. |
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Post by deadanchoress on Jan 10, 2015 18:15:11 GMT -5
Sammie, I think you just answered your own question within this post by saying, "I hear G.Willow is a wonderful person & Ms. Marvel is a phenomenal book & groundbreaking". There you have it. You know I love Thor, and think that it's one of the best books of the year - See my personal list for proof of that Steve Seigh's Favorite Comics of 2014. However, as incredible as Thor and Thor: God of Thunder were this year, I wouldn't say that it remained as impressionable on the comic book seen as Willow's Ms. Marvel. Kamala Khan was an icon overnight, who stands to be this generations Spider-Man as time goes on. I'm not so sure that Aaron's Thor can say that. Perhaps as the new female Thor comes into her own throughout 2015 we'll be singing a different tune come award season, but for now, and for me personally, G. Willow Wilson takes it. No question. Thanks so much for listening and for offering your opinion, which is always valued. Cheers! And to your point, I just caught up on XMen, and see that the aforementioned Ms. Wilson will be doing that book. I'll be interested to see how she handles that, especially with Monet on the team. I have not been a fan of the last arc, and while I've been a fan of Monet since her introduction in Generation X, I haven't liked her latest incarnation. Maybe she'll turn this book around and she'll prove (at least to me) that she belongs in the discussion of the best instead of just creating a great character. It's my understanding that Wilson will only be contributing to 3 issues worth of that series, so take that for what you will. To be honest, her ability to turn that X-book around - which has been a mess for quite sometime - should not play into whether or not she "belongs in the discussion" or not. Also, she didn't just create a great character, she's created an icon. There are lots of great characters in comics, but not all of them rise to the level of power, influence, and inspiration that Kamala has in the short time that she's been on the stands. Thor is awesome, there's no denying that. However, the God of Thunder has been around since 1962, giving him 52 years of experience and influence throughout geek and pop culture. Kamala hasn't even been on the scene for a full year and has already inspired new readers to come forth, has given Jersey a unique and cherished hero to call their own, and more. G. Willow Wilson has given an entire culture - who is more often than not, grossly mistreated and misunderstood in our society - a hero to be proud of - one that many readers, regardless of skin color or religious background would be glad to stand beside. I think that earns both Willow and Kamala a seat at the table. |
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Post by sammiecassell on Jan 10, 2015 19:38:12 GMT -5
And to your point, I just caught up on XMen, and see that the aforementioned Ms. Wilson will be doing that book. I'll be interested to see how she handles that, especially with Monet on the team. I have not been a fan of the last arc, and while I've been a fan of Monet since her introduction in Generation X, I haven't liked her latest incarnation. Maybe she'll turn this book around and she'll prove (at least to me) that she belongs in the discussion of the best instead of just creating a great character. It's my understanding that Wilson will only be contributing to 3 issues worth of that series, so take that for what you will. To be honest, her ability to turn that X-book around - which has been a mess for quite sometime - should not play into whether or not she "belongs in the discussion" or not. Also, she didn't just create a great character, she's created an icon. There are lots of great characters in comics, but not all of them rise to the level of power, influence, and inspiration that Kamala has in the short time that she's been on the stands. Thor is awesome, there's no denying that. However, the God of Thunder has been around since 1962, giving him 52 years of experience and influence throughout geek and pop culture. Kamala hasn't even been on the scene for a full year and has already inspired new readers to come forth, has given Jersey a unique and cherished hero to call their own, and more. G. Willow Wilson has given an entire culture - who is more often than not, grossly mistreated and misunderstood in our society - a hero to be proud of - one that many readers, regardless of skin color or religious background would be glad to stand beside. I think that earns both Willow and Kamala a seat at the table. Well that stinks, I agree, someone needs to turn that book around and if she's that good, she's as deserving of a chance on a "big time" book as anyone else. Fair enough on the impact of Kamala and Willow. That's not something I have the best perspective on, but I'm thrilled to see any book that inspires others to read and gives a culture something to hang their hat on. My thoughts weren't so much about my (& obviously your) love for Thor, nor anything negative towards Willow or that book, as it was one for Jason Aaron, who's taken a beloved character and made him female (kinda, but you get the idea) & hasn't ruffled "old school" feathers, has created a tremendous noir family drama with "Men of Wrath", AND introduced what I think is one of the best new series of the year with "Southern Bastards". You, Bobby (with his love of Outcast & Nailbiter, and other horror) are all in the same wheel house and that pleases me greatly to hear this stuff at least talked about. I'm sure the reader side of this will reflect some Aaron love. Great job as always to guys (& Steph lol) |
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Post by BarefootRoot on Jan 13, 2015 8:34:32 GMT -5
I was shocked Rocket Raccoon didn't make any of the lists. the art and storytelling has been great on that book all year. Still, The lists have been pretty good, so can't really complain  I am glad the movement didn't make it in as I didn't think it really stood up to some of the others. Seems like it had a lot of potential before it ended, but to me it just seems really ham-fisted with trying to include every race, gender, sexual orientation and handicap... not that any of those things shouldn't be represented in a book, but to have all of it in one place made the entire book feel really lame and contrived... like the concept was developed by focus groups and committee thinking (it reminds me of Poochie from the Simpsons). Maybe with more time it would have won me over, but you know what they say about spilled milk... Bob made a wonderful pitch for it, but I just couldn't sympathize All in all these last few episodes have been fun to listen to. I lied hearing the various pitches for different creators and books, and it's opened my eyes to a few series I wouldn't necessarily have checked out  |
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