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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 19:10:48 GMT -5
I guess the fact there's no thread for this movie explains it, but I have been so excited to see this movie since day one of announcement. And I hear it's completely tanked in the US. Not because its a bad movie (its gotten great reviews), but because nobody bothered to go.
It doesn't come out for another 2 weeks in Australia and I couldn't be more excited. But it is really disappointing to see a comic book movie that isn't yet another superhero franchise, with an AMAZING cast, directed by the actual creator of the comic book series, written by the actual creator, come out and have very little support. There literally couldn't be a more faithful comic book adaptation.
(I guess the same thing can be said for comic book series' that suffer from the "Bob Curse" that are amazing comics but nobody buys them. Drop a Bat/X/Avengers book and try something different.)
Anyway, anybody here actually see it and enjoy it?
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Post by Tony on Aug 31, 2014 19:36:52 GMT -5
I saw it opening weekend, and I enjoyed it, but . . but, but, but. Ok, no spoilers, really, but fair warning: There will be some discussion, opinions, hints, and allegations, from here out. Call it semi-spoiler-y, if you must. You've been warned. How to say this; I think my brother and I (we saw it together) agreed afterwards that maybe the best way to describe it is that it's just about exactly 3/4s of a good movie. The two stories that we got from the books (A Dame to Kill For and Just Another Saturday Night) were both excellent, worthy adaptations, and a worthy addition to the original movie (though there was one somewhat big thing that I was so hoping to see in A Dame to Kill For that they dropped the ball on, utterly, which I found jarring and disappointing; so it doesn't quite get full marks; i'll elaborate upon this at the bottom, in hidden spoiler form). The new story with J Gordon Levitt, The Long Bad Night, was also excellent; we both enjoyed it thoroughly (the visual effects, in particular, were mesmerizing, and Levitt is charismatic enough for the story to make weight; it felt like it belonged with the original batch of stories). Unfortunately, Nancy's Last Dance, the other new story focusing on Nancy dealing with the fallout from Yellow Bastard, was awwwwwwwwwful. No hyperbole, I swear it; believe me when I say that I wish wholeheartedly that I could report otherwise. I mean, it wasn't just bad, it was "holy shit, I kindof want to walk out of the theater right now, and that's coming from a huge fan of the comics and of the first movie" bad. And, perhaps most unfortunately, it essentially book-ends the movie, so that's the last taste you have in your mouth as the credits roll and you meander out to your car. And it's not just that Alba can't pull it off in the slightest (she's so amateurish it's hardly to be believed; like, a High School Theater Department level of bad), it's the writing as well. Sitting there, struggling through it, I kept thinking, "Oh, so this is what people mean when they say that Frank Miller totally lost it years ago and can't write his way out of a paper bag any more. Damn." Again, that's no hyperbole. And as Brian Cox-as-Robert McKee says so well in Adaptation (paraphrased), "Wow 'em in the end, and you've got yourself a picture." Well the opposite is also true; if the final act flops, so too does your picture. That's what people remember, that's what you have to nail. And this movie has one of the worst final acts i've ever sat through. I wish it were otherwise, but . . yeah, it's not. Rough, rough stuff to try and sit through. It comes across as more of a parody of Sin City than canon. And that made me sadface. Still, if i'm being fair, the other three stories were very good, and nearly lived up to my expectation. If only the other quarter of it hadn't failed so hard. Alas. The other thing that killed me was no Clive Owen after the face-off part of the story; just more Brolin in heavy, odd-looking, putty-like makeup. Been wanting for years to see one change into the other; they really blew it not making the switchover. Could've been so cool to see. |
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Post by Bob Reyer on Sept 1, 2014 1:11:32 GMT -5
I guess we're all thinking along the same lines, as I very much enjoyed the first "Sin City" film, and I came into the experience having read (and mostly purchased) the original books on their publication. I even have some voluminous notes prepared after a recent re-reading of "a Dame to Kill For" that were meant to presage either an on-air discussion or a movie review as I was looking forward to seeing the new film, but some very poor reviews, have me very leery, particularly after the hot mess that was "The Spirit".
At this juncture, with my hopes dashed, it's one of those films that I'll probably save my theatrical dollars and just skip to buying sight unseen due to my love of the first installment.
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Post by wamphari on Sept 3, 2014 15:50:21 GMT -5
I honestly can't get past how I feel about Frank Miller enough to give this film a fair shake. I just see his grubby fingerprints all over this thing. Sorry.
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Post by captainsaxon on Sept 28, 2014 9:42:56 GMT -5
I would put the first Sin City as one of my five favorite films, and probably my favorite comic adaption(please note I said adaptation), but after Frank Miller went of the reservation with his overly-scary extreme right-wing rant a few years back, I view his work through a very different prism. A Dame to kill for is my favorite of the Sin City books, so I have high hopes... I would see it in theaters, but the trailers don't look like they are serving it that well, and I'd like to save my money on what I'm afraid will be more like - The Spirit 2, rather than Sin City 2. This will probably be a netflix/Amazaon Prime rental for me.
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Post by wamphari on Sept 28, 2014 10:18:18 GMT -5
Ok trigger warning, But I sort of enjoyed The Spirit. I know, I know. I guess I came into the film with virtually no pre-knowledge of the character at all and thought it was sort of delightfully haphazard. I definitely would not go so far as to call it a good movie, but I did have fun watching all the silly over-the-top nonsense. (awaits the vengeance of bob)
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Post by Bob Reyer on Sept 28, 2014 15:12:11 GMT -5
Ok trigger warning, But I sort of enjoyed The Spirit. I know, I know. I guess I came into the film with virtually no pre-knowledge of the character at all and thought it was sort of delightfully haphazard. I definitely would not go so far as to call it a good movie, but I did have fun watching all the silly over-the-top nonsense. (awaits the vengeance of bob) No vengeance required! That said, in some alternate cinematic universe Quentin Tarantino has made a stellar version of The Spirit, or even better, there was a adaptation done contemporary with the strips hey-day of the Forties by Orson Welles! |
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Post by henrythemorerecent on Feb 8, 2015 17:56:19 GMT -5
I finally got around to seeing this and loved the hell out of it. Biggest regret of 2014 was not seeing this at the movies because of all the bad press. I think if you're a fan of Frank Miller (through thick and thin), this is a satisfying film. But I don't read Frank Miller because I want something different. I read it because I want to dive into the miserble world of Frank Miller. And thats the attitude that needs to go with this movie.
That and there are some brilliant moments. And one-liners. Specifically from Marv. Key favourites would be the scene of him running frantically through the courtyard wearing Manute's hat. And his comment to Nancy in the last story after she "changes her look". Even the opener to the movie. Just the sheer confusion and attitude he has. Hilarious. And The Long Bad Night! I loved that so much. Not to be too spoilery. But one thing I love about noir like this is you always get the feeling things will end well. But they never do.
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