Chapin
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Post by Chapin on May 13, 2014 19:39:08 GMT -5
Another great episode. Sometimes you three (four today) remind me of my twin geek daughters (age 20). It's very charming.
I am a huge LotR fan, and to hear you all discussing it for an hour was very cool. Two things. 1) I was saddened to discover that you "wouldn't want to know me" because I am not especially moved by the return of the king to Gondor. Don't get me wrong. I love Aragorn (and Strider!), whether he's played by a very good looking Vigo, or voiced by John Hurt ("I look foul and feel fair"). But the truth for me is, the closer he got to Gondor, the less interesting he became. The books to me were about personal character, not bloodlines. I hope you'll forgive me. 2) The one thing the movies did that deviated from the books that I still find very hard to take was turning Gimli into the comic relief. In the books, to me, he stood for -- all the good dwarves stood for -- a sort of Stoic, stout, strength. A quiet dependability. In my D&D days, I always choose a dwarf, because stout, strong, and grounded were my aspirations. No, I did not want to be short ... but, yes I have always been tall.
Thanks, Gary
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Post by scouts1998 on May 14, 2014 6:35:59 GMT -5
Favourite Character - Aragon
Favourite moment - The one just after Frodo had the close encounter with the ring wraith in the Two Towers. Frodo: I can't do this, Sam.
Sam: I know. It's all wrong. By rights we shouldn't even be here. But we are. It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something.
Frodo: What are we holding onto, Sam?
Sam: That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo... and it's worth fighting for.
Favourite Movie - Return of the King (Extended Edition)
First Exposure - Fellowship of the ring. Probably on VHS when i was about 4 or 5 years old
Favourite Romance - Gollum/Smeagol and the One Ring!
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Post by IncredibleD on May 14, 2014 11:04:08 GMT -5
Its been a while since i saw the trilogy but those movies are great, i should really watch them again sometimes.Return of the King is my favourite.
Watching all three of them along with my dad(who loved them even more than me) will always be one my greatest memories that i have of him.
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Post by megamaramon on May 14, 2014 11:30:15 GMT -5
Another great episode. Sometimes you three (four today) remind me of my twin geek daughters (age 20). It's very charming. I am a huge LotR fan, and to hear you all discussing it for an hour was very cool. Two things. 1) I was saddened to discover that you "wouldn't want to know me" because I am not especially moved by the return of the king to Gondor. Don't get me wrong. I love Aragorn (and Strider!), whether he's played by a very good looking Vigo, or voiced by John Hurt ("I look foul and feel fair"). But the truth for me is, the closer he got to Gondor, the less interesting he became. The books to me were about personal character, not bloodlines. I hope you'll forgive me. 2) The one thing the movies did that deviated from the books that I still find very hard to take was turning Gimli into the comic relief. In the books, to me, he stood for -- all the good dwarves stood for -- a sort of Stoic, stout, strength. A quiet dependability. In my D&D days, I always choose a dwarf, because stout, strong, and grounded were my aspirations. No, I did not want to be short ... but, yes I have always been tall. Thanks, Gary It's ok if you're not moved by Aragorn! The best part about this story is that there are so many facets, and angle for everyone to enjoy. I just happen to have super strong feelings about Aragorn's story. I'm glad you brought up John Hurt. Reminded me that I never touched on an aspect of the LOTR series that I love: the BBC Radio Play. We touched briefly on the animated movie, but not on the fantastic radio version of the series. I listen to it during my Christmas driving - it always kept me awake and alert as the Fellowship battled orcs and made their way to Mt. Doom. Also, the Robert Inglis audiobooks are great ways to soak up the story. And Gimli as comic relief is exponentially worse in the extended editions. That was really irritating.
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Post by CaptainSuperior on May 16, 2014 16:13:20 GMT -5
Theoden is by far my favorite character, his language in the book and his lines in the movie are very poetic. A few choice examples:
- Where is the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? They have passed like rain on the mountain, like wind in the meadow. The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. How did it come to this?
- Simbelmyne. Ever has it grown on the tombs of my forebears. Now it shall cover the grave of my son. Alas, that these evil days should be mine. The young perish and the old linger. That I should live to see that last days of my house.
- Let this be the hour when we draw swords together. Fell deeds awake. Now for wrath, now for ruin, and the red dawn. Forth, Eorlingas!
- We shall have peace... We shall have peace, when you answer for the burning of the Westfold, and the children that lie dead there! We shall have peace, when the lives of the soldiers whose bodies were hewn even as they died against the gates of the Hornberg, are avenged! When you hang from a gibbit for the sport of your own crows...! We shall have peace.
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