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Post by optimus on Feb 6, 2014 16:45:59 GMT -5
Total agree with it being like hawkeye. I am getting indestructible hulk, hawkeye, and black widow for that reason Also like green, purple, and red break up in box  |
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Post by pacino on Feb 7, 2014 7:52:10 GMT -5
Total agree with it being like hawkeye. I am getting indestructible hulk, hawkeye, and black widow for that reason Also like green, purple, and red break up in box the resurgance in SOLO titles is encouraging and enjoyable. it allows much more character development to take place. |
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Post by CaptainSuperior on Feb 7, 2014 8:24:13 GMT -5
I must admit that I'm enjoying this series more than I thought I would. The art of Phil Noto is pretty much perfect for this book.
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Post by rcbtaw on Feb 8, 2014 20:02:31 GMT -5
Read #3 this afternoon. I loved the decision Natasha made in the helicopter. Furthermore, I'd love it if the Russian husband from her building got some vodka-drinking goons to come after Natasha in an attempt to save some face. I can guess what would be the result of that! Did I read correctly that #4 won't be out until March? This has been the only book on my pull list that I have been excited to get every two weeks. I am kind of afraid to start reading more bi-monthly Marvel books. I feel like my bank account would be drained.
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Post by Raider30 on Feb 8, 2014 22:38:05 GMT -5
Heyo,
So I was able to sit down and read #3 this afternoon. I'm still on the fence about this comic. To me this issue was basically the exact same as the last issue. Natasha goes on a mission. Natasha is distracted by something and makes mistakes while thinking about not making mistakes because of said distraction. To me the best parts of the comic are the shortest sections. Her relationship with her broker, his story(especially after whacking those 3 people in the last issue), and her interaction around her apartment building(the cat and Anna). Frankly, the missions so far seem repetitive.
I'm also struggling with Noto's art. I guess I just don't 'get it'. People seem to rave about it, but to me it is very bland, lacks almost any character detail, and the color palette is just so washed out one page just blends into another. Then again every once in awhile he will put in a subtle detail, like the first panel with Anna's black eye. It's really subtle, but also stands out at the same time. Also there is one other panel where Natasha takes down 3 guards and Noto does an interesting line drawing of her strikes, 3 strikes within one panel. It's different and enjoyable. The rest is just hard to get past unfortunately.
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Post by xtjmac510x on Feb 10, 2014 1:50:44 GMT -5
Heyo,
So I was able to sit down and read #3 this afternoon. I'm still on the fence about this comic. To me this issue was basically the exact same as the last issue. Natasha goes on a mission. Natasha is distracted by something and makes mistakes while thinking about not making mistakes because of said distraction. To me the best parts of the comic are the shortest sections. Her relationship with her broker, his story(especially after whacking those 3 people in the last issue), and her interaction around her apartment building(the cat and Anna). Frankly, the missions so far seem repetitive.
I'm also struggling with Noto's art. I guess I just don't 'get it'. People seem to rave about it, but to me it is very bland, lacks almost any character detail, and the color palette is just so washed out one page just blends into another. Then again every once in awhile he will put in a subtle detail, like the first panel with Anna's black eye. It's really subtle, but also stands out at the same time. Also there is one other panel where Natasha takes down 3 guards and Noto does an interesting line drawing of her strikes, 3 strikes within one panel. It's different and enjoyable. The rest is just hard to get past unfortunately.
- Beau I get where you're coming from but you have to realize that this is an Edmonson book, through and through. His specialty is doing one-and-done mission stories that equal out to a greater overarching plot when you read it all at once. Just see The Activity for a good representation of that. I'll admit, that's probably not for everybody and I'm not going to sit here and force you to read it, but I'm just saying that this will all make sense by the time the arc is over with issue 6. You'll look back and go "Oh, there was a main point behind everything." It's a bigger picture kind of book, one that doesn't utilize cliffhangers, stingers or other narrative devices to bring you in. As for Noto, same as before. He's not for everyone. I love him. |
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Post by scouts1998 on Feb 10, 2014 5:46:42 GMT -5
I was like 'meh' i'll wait for the trade if i can be convinced to do so
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Post by pacino on Feb 10, 2014 8:29:43 GMT -5
Read #3 this afternoon. I loved the decision Natasha made in the helicopter. Furthermore, I'd love it if the Russian husband from her building got some vodka-drinking goons to come after Natasha in an attempt to save some face. I can guess what would be the result of that! Did I read correctly that #4 won't be out until March? This has been the only book on my pull list that I have been excited to get every two weeks. I am kind of afraid to start reading more bi-monthly Marvel books. I feel like my bank account would be drained. The letters page in the back of #1 stated they'd slow down to once a month after the 3rd issues. |
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Post by xtjmac510x on Feb 10, 2014 11:58:51 GMT -5
Read #3 this afternoon. I loved the decision Natasha made in the helicopter. Furthermore, I'd love it if the Russian husband from her building got some vodka-drinking goons to come after Natasha in an attempt to save some face. I can guess what would be the result of that! Did I read correctly that #4 won't be out until March? This has been the only book on my pull list that I have been excited to get every two weeks. I am kind of afraid to start reading more bi-monthly Marvel books. I feel like my bank account would be drained. The letters page in the back of #1 stated they'd slow down to once a month after the 3rd issues. Yeah it's going to on a once-a-month schedule after issue 3 (with some exceptions of course but generally once-a-month). I think a lot of the All-New Marvel NOW titles, or at least the new series, are doing two issues in short amount of time to try and help you get an idea of what the series is going to be like. This isn't true for ALL of the new series, but its a trend I've noticed with a number of them. |
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Post by pacino on Feb 10, 2014 13:15:56 GMT -5
The letters page in the back of #1 stated they'd slow down to once a month after the 3rd issues. Yeah it's going to on a once-a-month schedule after issue 3 (with some exceptions of course but generally once-a-month). I think a lot of the All-New Marvel NOW titles, or at least the new series, are doing two issues in short amount of time to try and help you get an idea of what the series is going to be like. This isn't true for ALL of the new series, but its a trend I've noticed with a number of them. I first noticed that with Thor. All-New X-Men did that every other week thing for a long time, until after Battle of the Atom. Avengers did until after Infinity. They must see it working to keep doing it. |
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Post by Raider30 on Feb 10, 2014 13:25:21 GMT -5
Heyo,
So I was able to sit down and read #3 this afternoon. I'm still on the fence about this comic. To me this issue was basically the exact same as the last issue. Natasha goes on a mission. Natasha is distracted by something and makes mistakes while thinking about not making mistakes because of said distraction. To me the best parts of the comic are the shortest sections. Her relationship with her broker, his story(especially after whacking those 3 people in the last issue), and her interaction around her apartment building(the cat and Anna). Frankly, the missions so far seem repetitive.
I'm also struggling with Noto's art. I guess I just don't 'get it'. People seem to rave about it, but to me it is very bland, lacks almost any character detail, and the color palette is just so washed out one page just blends into another. Then again every once in awhile he will put in a subtle detail, like the first panel with Anna's black eye. It's really subtle, but also stands out at the same time. Also there is one other panel where Natasha takes down 3 guards and Noto does an interesting line drawing of her strikes, 3 strikes within one panel. It's different and enjoyable. The rest is just hard to get past unfortunately.
- Beau I get where you're coming from but you have to realize that this is an Edmonson book, through and through. His specialty is doing one-and-done mission stories that equal out to a greater overarching plot when you read it all at once. Just see The Activity for a good representation of that. I'll admit, that's probably not for everybody and I'm not going to sit here and force you to read it, but I'm just saying that this will all make sense by the time the arc is over with issue 6. You'll look back and go "Oh, there was a main point behind everything." It's a bigger picture kind of book, one that doesn't utilize cliffhangers, stingers or other narrative devices to bring you in. As for Noto, same as before. He's not for everyone. I love him. Heyo, Yep, I don't plan on stopping it just yet. Sometimes a book just needs some time to get it's footing(see the Harley Quinn monthly), and sometimes I just need to get my head around a book, and sometimes it's a bit of both. I've not really read Edmonson so I'm not entirely sure what to expect, though to be honest, if the book consists of Natasha going on a mission and then returning to her apartment and cat, rinse and repeat, every month that's going to get a little old for me. So I'm definitely holding out for the little things that appear, as mentioned in my above post, to flesh out while waiting for an overall story/history/something to emerge. Thanks for the info and comments. - Beau |
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Post by drocat on Feb 10, 2014 14:22:57 GMT -5
The letters page in the back of #1 stated they'd slow down to once a month after the 3rd issues. Yeah it's going to on a once-a-month schedule after issue 3 (with some exceptions of course but generally once-a-month). I think a lot of the All-New Marvel NOW titles, or at least the new series, are doing two issues in short amount of time to try and help you get an idea of what the series is going to be like. This isn't true for ALL of the new series, but its a trend I've noticed with a number of them. I think that's a great idea. For me at least, when I start a new series it takes a while for me to decide whether or not I want to keep it on my list, and sometimes I forget what the story is supposed to even be about, so I take it off before the second one even comes out just because I lost interest in the story. When it comes out every other week, the beginning of the story sticks in my head a lot better, so I'm more apt to keep it on my list. It makes sense for them on the business side of things. If they can just write the first 4 issues in advance, they can spend those two months writing the rest of it and it keeps them from falling behind on the schedule. |
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Post by xtjmac510x on Feb 10, 2014 15:31:08 GMT -5
I get where you're coming from but you have to realize that this is an Edmonson book, through and through. His specialty is doing one-and-done mission stories that equal out to a greater overarching plot when you read it all at once. Just see The Activity for a good representation of that. I'll admit, that's probably not for everybody and I'm not going to sit here and force you to read it, but I'm just saying that this will all make sense by the time the arc is over with issue 6. You'll look back and go "Oh, there was a main point behind everything." It's a bigger picture kind of book, one that doesn't utilize cliffhangers, stingers or other narrative devices to bring you in. As for Noto, same as before. He's not for everyone. I love him. Heyo, Yep, I don't plan on stopping it just yet. Sometimes a book just needs some time to get it's footing(see the Harley Quinn monthly), and sometimes I just need to get my head around a book, and sometimes it's a bit of both. I've not really read Edmonson so I'm not entirely sure what to expect, though to be honest, if the book consists of Natasha going on a mission and then returning to her apartment and cat, rinse and repeat, every month that's going to get a little old for me. So I'm definitely holding out for the little things that appear, as mentioned in my above post, to flesh out while waiting for an overall story/history/something to emerge. Thanks for the info and comments. - Beau I totally get it. He's a very unique writer when it comes to ongoing series. In his Jake Ellis minseries (both of them) there is a more progressive plot being told (mostly due to the limited amount of issues) but he tends to go for that "big picture" story in his ongoings. I mentioned The Activity because every arc (with the exception of one issue) had been structurally the same as Black Widow (mission, back home, mission, back home ect) but it would always build towards a bigger plot that would pay off at the arcs finish (or later on in the series). I'm seeing bits and pieces of that with this series. All the side bits with Natasha are slowly building up and mark my words, we'll see a payoff come issue #6. Then again, he also mentioned that they would be broadening the story with the second arc and that this first one was establishing WHO Natasha is (hence the inner monologue she's had these past 3 issues). Like I said, I know Edmonson's style and it can be tricky for people who aren't familiar with his work. The Punisher series he's writing (with the artist from The Activity oddly enough) seems to have a clearer plot so far, but I'm seeing seeds of that ol' Edmonson style in there already. Hope what I said helps. |
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Post by drocat on Feb 12, 2014 0:08:39 GMT -5
Heyo, Yep, I don't plan on stopping it just yet. Sometimes a book just needs some time to get it's footing(see the Harley Quinn monthly), and sometimes I just need to get my head around a book, and sometimes it's a bit of both. I've not really read Edmonson so I'm not entirely sure what to expect, though to be honest, if the book consists of Natasha going on a mission and then returning to her apartment and cat, rinse and repeat, every month that's going to get a little old for me. So I'm definitely holding out for the little things that appear, as mentioned in my above post, to flesh out while waiting for an overall story/history/something to emerge. Thanks for the info and comments. - Beau I totally get it. He's a very unique writer when it comes to ongoing series. In his Jake Ellis minseries (both of them) there is a more progressive plot being told (mostly due to the limited amount of issues) but he tends to go for that "big picture" story in his ongoings. I mentioned The Activity because every arc (with the exception of one issue) had been structurally the same as Black Widow (mission, back home, mission, back home ect) but it would always build towards a bigger plot that would pay off at the arcs finish (or later on in the series). I'm seeing bits and pieces of that with this series. All the side bits with Natasha are slowly building up and mark my words, we'll see a payoff come issue #6. Then again, he also mentioned that they would be broadening the story with the second arc and that this first one was establishing WHO Natasha is (hence the inner monologue she's had these past 3 issues). Like I said, I know Edmonson's style and it can be tricky for people who aren't familiar with his work. The Punisher series he's writing (with the artist from The Activity oddly enough) seems to have a clearer plot so far, but I'm seeing seeds of that ol' Edmonson style in there already. Hope what I said helps. I just finished the 3rd issue finally, and it does seem to be building towards something big, especially after the couple panels at the very end. I think this repetitive story telling really works for developing the character- it helps show us what her lifestyle is like which is what the overall goal seems to be in this first arc. Also: I hope nothing bad happens to that cat... he/she looks JUST like my cat and if something happens I'm going to flip out. The panel where she's like "Not home yet, just grabbing a few things" was adorable. I'm a sucker for cats, obviously. |
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Post by courtneyk on Feb 12, 2014 0:24:31 GMT -5
I totally get it. He's a very unique writer when it comes to ongoing series. In his Jake Ellis minseries (both of them) there is a more progressive plot being told (mostly due to the limited amount of issues) but he tends to go for that "big picture" story in his ongoings. I mentioned The Activity because every arc (with the exception of one issue) had been structurally the same as Black Widow (mission, back home, mission, back home ect) but it would always build towards a bigger plot that would pay off at the arcs finish (or later on in the series). I'm seeing bits and pieces of that with this series. All the side bits with Natasha are slowly building up and mark my words, we'll see a payoff come issue #6. Then again, he also mentioned that they would be broadening the story with the second arc and that this first one was establishing WHO Natasha is (hence the inner monologue she's had these past 3 issues). Like I said, I know Edmonson's style and it can be tricky for people who aren't familiar with his work. The Punisher series he's writing (with the artist from The Activity oddly enough) seems to have a clearer plot so far, but I'm seeing seeds of that ol' Edmonson style in there already. Hope what I said helps. I just finished the 3rd issue finally, and it does seem to be building towards something big, especially after the couple panels at the very end. I think this repetitive story telling really works for developing the character- it helps show us what her lifestyle is like which is what the overall goal seems to be in this first arc. Also: I hope nothing bad happens to that cat... he/she looks JUST like my cat and if something happens I'm going to flip out. The panel where she's like "Not home yet, just grabbing a few things" was adorable. I'm a sucker for cats, obviously. Oh, I will be flinging the comic against the wall if something happens to that cat. I'm not even a cat person and I am totally invested in that cat. I must admit I'm glad it looks like we're starting to build to something bigger with those last panels because this last issue did feel a bit samey to me. I still like the series, I'm just ready for a little forward momentum with the larger plot. |
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