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Star Trek!
Jul 17, 2015 12:13:42 GMT -5
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Post by angelcakes83 on Jul 17, 2015 12:13:42 GMT -5
I remember that episode now I wonder how many episodes in TNG and the Original series have troublesome concepts and have they reached a point where they are so bad they are funny. See the podcast where we talk about the sheer rape-iness of several episodes. There are also episodes where the handling of the issue is fine until the last 5 minutes.
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Post by markstephen on Aug 18, 2015 5:31:40 GMT -5
On your talk of the Enterprise reveal scene in Star Trek the Motion Picture, I think you're being a little harsh. What you might not realize is that when Star Trek came on the air a spaceship on a tv or movie wasn't really well thought out as far as design went. Look at the Jupiter 2 from Lost in Space and you have an idea of what the typical ship was. You had a saucer or you had a cigar. The Enterprise had different sections, was as large as US aircraft carrier from WW2 and had two types of power. You didn't have that before, you had warp drive or you had impulse. Most shows like Lost In Space didn't even bother to address the problem of how you got through space at FTL speeds, Star Trek had two options. That ship design inspired a lot of science careers. Also the original series went off the air in 1969 and the cartoon went off the air in 1974. That left five years before the movie and it was five years in the 1970's. No internet, no cable. If you were a fan you had two options, conventions and round robin letter or fanzines (Trek magazine was I think was the best) and being a fan then was not being a fan now or even when you grew up. If you were lucky enough to know other fans the community was still a very small and much maligned one. If you wanted to see Star Trek at all you waited for the UHF channels to pick it up in syndication which meant rigging an antenna to get the weak signal which meant snowy pictures with a lot more commercials than show a lot of the time. So when 1979 finally came (I'll admit the movie had problems with script and everything else, but at the time Paramount was constantly changing it's mind on whether or not Star Trek would be a movie or a springboard to a new tv show and the base of a new tv network) you finally had a chance to see the ship, not only redesigned but on a movie screen instead of a (in my case) 9 to 12 inch black and white tv. I didn't mind that at all. When you were a kid watching Star Trek when it first showed up in an era when space really did seem to be close future instead of far future the US Enterprise you saw on the small tv screen was not just a model, it was as Humphrey Bogart said of the Maltese Falcon, The stuff that dreams are made of.
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Post by markstephen on Aug 18, 2015 5:34:06 GMT -5
I remember that episode now I wonder how many episodes in TNG and the Original series have troublesome concepts and have they reached a point where they are so bad they are funny. See the podcast where we talk about the sheer rape-iness of several episodes. There are also episodes where the handling of the issue is fine until the last 5 minutes. It wasn't only the women who were abused in Star Trek. In the original series Kirk, Spock and McCoy were roughed up too. Kirk being forced to play horsey by Parmen in one episode and his mind switched out of his body twice.
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Post by markstephen on Sept 6, 2015 14:57:17 GMT -5
One quick Star Trek note, a story that you might not be aware of. In the book "Alternate Kennedys" edited by Mike Resnick there is a story written by David Gerold where John F. Kennedy goes into acting instead of politics and is cast as Captain of the USS Enterprise.
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