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Post by Bob Reyer on May 4, 2015 5:57:32 GMT -5
We all have our favorites, and as always for me, I prefer a Superman that hews closer to the vast majority of his published and filmed history, a character who can inspire, who's a friend to all, and the defender of "Truth, Justice, and the American Way": For anyone interested, I wrote a paean to George Reeves some bit ago that might help you younger folks understand why the character of Superman as portrayed in a respectful manner seems to matter so much to us alter kockers. I can't wrap my head and heart around this new iteration of the character taking a young polio victim on a birthday flight, as Superman does in this clip that still leaves me a wreck after fifty years! |
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Post by henrythemorerecent on Jun 9, 2015 16:01:16 GMT -5
WB released the official synopsis for BvS. Not anything unexpected
"Fearing the actions of a god-like super hero left unchecked, Gotham City’s own formidable, forceful vigilante takes on Metropolis’s most revered, modern-day savior, while the world wrestles with what sort of hero it really needs. And with Batman and Superman at war with one another, a new threat quickly arises, putting mankind in greater danger than it’s ever known before."
Lex is the obvious threat, and with rumours of Doomsday it could very much be like in the comics, him uncovering Doomsday.
Either way, I'm already getting goosebumps at the thought of that final scene or shot of the film. Whether its a gratuitous handshake between the two or a smirk from Supes and a reluctant grunt from Batman, that moment is going to be amazing. Rewatched Man of Steel last night and that end scene between Lois and Clark and his big Superman grin. Gets me every time. Can't contain my smile.
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Post by henrythemorerecent on Jun 9, 2015 18:47:35 GMT -5
Also been reading lots of merchandising news regarding this film and a lot of focus will be placed on Wonder Woman. Gonna be so cool to see Wonder Woman toys and costumes and tshirts etc everywhere.
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Post by henrythemorerecent on Jul 2, 2015 15:42:21 GMT -5
I'll continue talking to myself but EW just released some more information and stills from the movie
www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=122351
The Trinity together! So exciting!
Confirms that Batman has been around for 20 years now. This gives me the idea that when they do make that Batman solo movie if could very well be a prequel because Affleck can easily play younger and older. Gives the opportunity to have the Robins also.
Also just happy to see some news out before SDCC. The weeks leading up to it are usually silent. Makes you wonder what they have in store for Hall H |
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Post by harmonica on Jul 2, 2015 22:48:55 GMT -5
sadly, in my opinion Wonder Woman looks really lackluster on that image. i hope she looks more powerful in the movie and not like a teenager.
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Post by henrythemorerecent on Jul 5, 2015 18:26:38 GMT -5
Each to their own, but she's 30 years old. Hardly a teenager.
I get a lot of people aren't excited about this because its Zack Snyder, but how jaded do fans need to be where the DC trinity, Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman are on the cover of a mainstream entertainment magazine for a movie they are in together for the first time and it doesn't give them even the slightest bit of excitement. I couldn't care less if this movie was worse than Green Lantern, this is history.
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Post by harmonica on Jul 6, 2015 1:40:52 GMT -5
i know that she isnt a teenager but on that cover she just looks more like WonderGirl than WonderWoman and i dont like it. i would like her to look just as tough as Batman and Superman
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Post by BatFonz on Jul 6, 2015 2:34:35 GMT -5
I'm still looking forward to this movie and the image has me pumped, I was actually surprised by how much I liked the look of her Wonder Woman on the cover and she looked very focused - doesn't fit my mental image of Diana but she looks good to me.
It made me chuckle also that with it being such a light colored background in the photo that Batman looks sooooo uncomfortable which is spot on.
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Post by optimus on Jul 12, 2015 0:10:40 GMT -5
We all have our favorites, and as always for me, I prefer a Superman that hews closer to the vast majority of his published and filmed history, a character who can inspire, who's a friend to all, and the defender of "Truth, Justice, and the American Way": For anyone interested, I wrote a paean to George Reeves some bit ago that might help you younger folks understand why the character of Superman as portrayed in a respectful manner seems to matter so much to us alter kockers. I can't wrap my head and heart around this new iteration of the character taking a young polio victim on a birthday flight, as Superman does in this clip that still leaves me a wreck after fifty years! Totally agree bob |
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Post by harmonica on Jul 12, 2015 3:30:34 GMT -5
sadly the new trailer doesnt show Superman in a different light, but no wonder with this version of mama kent raising him. thankfully the batman scenes are very intriguing, but im more interested than hyped www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WWzgGyAH6Y |
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Post by thephantomwelshman on Jul 12, 2015 4:01:18 GMT -5
I thought it looked decent. Still not convinced by Gal Godot as Wonder Woman. I'm one of the people who has no problem with the way Superman has been portrayed. I've no interest in seeing yet another film about the big blue boy scout being perfect and having nothing to overcome. I think it's great that no matter what Villain he defeats or how many people he saves, his biggest challenge is overcoming Public Opinion. Seeing as Clark seems to have been dragged in front of everyone, criticised and has been made accountable for his actions, it's hardly surprising that Ma Kent is defensive towards the boy she raised.
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Post by Bob Reyer on Jul 12, 2015 6:16:26 GMT -5
We all have our favorites, and as always for me, I prefer a Superman that hews closer to the vast majority of his published and filmed history, a character who can inspire, who's a friend to all, and the defender of "Truth, Justice, and the American Way": For anyone interested, I wrote a paean to George Reeves some bit ago that might help you younger folks understand why the character of Superman as portrayed in a respectful manner seems to matter so much to us alter kockers. I can't wrap my head and heart around this new iteration of the character taking a young polio victim on a birthday flight, as Superman does in this clip that still leaves me a wreck after fifty years! Totally agree bob Pedro, Thanks a bunch, and I hope you enjoyed the old clips, and that they perhaps set you to viewing some old episodes. |
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Post by henrythemorerecent on Jul 19, 2015 17:52:49 GMT -5
Can I ask honestly what the problem with Ma Kent's trailer line is so wrong? To me it sounds exactly like what a mother should say. Clark had no choice in anything that happened to him, sent to Earth, felt like an outsider because of his powers, then gets called out by a madman and tries his best to stop him, obviously the world doesn't agree and is threatened, lots of Christ overtones. He doesn't owe anybody anything. Superman's attitude in the comics has always been help the people help themselves. If they rely to heavily on him they won't learn to stop screwing up so bad. So he doesn't owe mankind anything. He should do what he feels is right, not what he feels he is obligated to do.
And keeping it Affleck related, it reminds me of Good Will Hunting. Just because he's a genius, doens't mean he has to work for some big company and get paid millions. He should do what is best for him and figure it out for himself. Not sit in a tug-of-war between 2 arguing sides. To me the "You have a responsibility to help people" sounds like the Stellan Skarsgard selfish attitude and what Ma is saying is the Robin Williams logical and meaningful attitude.
I'd rather an honest character saying honest things than a "You should save everybody, it's your responsibility." It's a poor lesson for everybody, waiting on a savior rather than helping yourself.
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Post by Bob Reyer on Jul 19, 2015 22:20:04 GMT -5
Can I ask honestly what the problem with Ma Kent's trailer line is so wrong? To me it sounds exactly like what a mother should say. Clark had no choice in anything that happened to him, sent to Earth, felt like an outsider because of his powers, then gets called out by a madman and tries his best to stop him, obviously the world doesn't agree and is threatened, lots of Christ overtones. He doesn't owe anybody anything. Superman's attitude in the comics has always been help the people help themselves. If they rely to heavily on him they won't learn to stop screwing up so bad. So he doesn't owe mankind anything. He should do what he feels is right, not what he feels he is obligated to do.
And keeping it Affleck related, it reminds me of Good Will Hunting. Just because he's a genius, doens't mean he has to work for some big company and get paid millions. He should do what is best for him and figure it out for himself. Not sit in a tug-of-war between 2 arguing sides. To me the "You have a responsibility to help people" sounds like the Stellan Skarsgard selfish attitude and what Ma is saying is the Robin Williams logical and meaningful attitude.
I'd rather an honest character saying honest things than a "You should save everybody, it's your responsibility." It's a poor lesson for everybody, waiting on a savior rather than helping yourself.
Henry, I'm speaking only for myself, but perhaps it's a generational thing, as those of us with deep connections to the classic presentation of Superman crave to see more of the altruistic hero of our youths, and so we can't fathom this new version, and that creates the divide between us and those who yearn to see something edgier. To each his own, but for me, hearing Martha Kent's line in the trailer, or those admonitions of Jonathan's in "MoS", I'm drawn back to the talk that Glenn Ford as Jonathan gives to young Clark in Richard Donner's "Superman": "When you came to us, we thought people would come and take you away, when they found out the things that you could do. It worried us a lot. But then, when a man gets older, and he thinks very differently, and things get very clear; and there's one thing I do know, Son, and that is that you are here for a reason. I don't know whose reason, or whatever the reason is...I don't know...but I do know one thing--it's not to score touchdowns."
Or maybe it's the words of his Mother, from back in the first episode of the TV "Adventures of Superman", as Clark is about to take the bus from Smallville to Metropolis: "You got a great responsibility to the world, Clark. You gotta accept it. Make use of your great powers."As well as to the concluding page from John Byrne's "Man of Steel" #6, which for me sums up how I perceive the character; due to his being raised on Earth, it is Clark Kent who is the "real person", and "Superman" the adopted identity:  |
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Post by optimus on Jul 22, 2015 0:11:10 GMT -5
Can I ask honestly what the problem with Ma Kent's trailer line is so wrong? To me it sounds exactly like what a mother should say. Clark had no choice in anything that happened to him, sent to Earth, felt like an outsider because of his powers, then gets called out by a madman and tries his best to stop him, obviously the world doesn't agree and is threatened, lots of Christ overtones. He doesn't owe anybody anything. Superman's attitude in the comics has always been help the people help themselves. If they rely to heavily on him they won't learn to stop screwing up so bad. So he doesn't owe mankind anything. He should do what he feels is right, not what he feels he is obligated to do.
And keeping it Affleck related, it reminds me of Good Will Hunting. Just because he's a genius, doens't mean he has to work for some big company and get paid millions. He should do what is best for him and figure it out for himself. Not sit in a tug-of-war between 2 arguing sides. To me the "You have a responsibility to help people" sounds like the Stellan Skarsgard selfish attitude and what Ma is saying is the Robin Williams logical and meaningful attitude.
I'd rather an honest character saying honest things than a "You should save everybody, it's your responsibility." It's a poor lesson for everybody, waiting on a savior rather than helping yourself.
Henry, I'm speaking only for myself, but perhaps it's a generational thing, as those of us with deep connections to the classic presentation of Superman crave to see more of the altruistic hero of our youths, and so we can't fathom this new version, and that creates the divide between us and those who yearn to see something edgier. To each his own, but for me, hearing Martha Kent's line in the trailer, or those admonitions of Jonathan's in "MoS", I'm drawn back to the talk that Glenn Ford as Jonathan gives to young Clark in Richard Donner's "Superman": "When you came to us, we thought people would come and take you away, when they found out the things that you could do. It worried us a lot. But then, when a man gets older, and he thinks very differently, and things get very clear; and there's one thing I do know, Son, and that is that you are here for a reason. I don't know whose reason, or whatever the reason is...I don't know...but I do know one thing--it's not to score touchdowns."
Or maybe it's the words of his Mother, from back in the first episode of the TV "Adventures of Superman", as Clark is about to take the bus from Smallville to Metropolis: "You got a great responsibility to the world, Clark. You gotta accept it. Make use of your great powers."As well as to the concluding page from John Byrne's "Man of Steel" #4, which for me sums up how I perceive the character; due to his being raised on Earth, it is Clark Kent who is the "real person", and "Superman" the adopted identity: OMG Bob that was some awesome quotes! I am curious if it is just age difference as I am not that old and still agree with this version of superman. Yes I watched the reeve superman when I was young but I also watched batman and can appreciate the Nolan version over Keaton....it is not the story has to be a perfect match of the comics but in the spirit of the character which I believe the Nolan movies do with batman but Snyder fails to do with superman my 2 cents |
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