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Post by Bob Reyer on Sept 27, 2014 8:12:21 GMT -5
Thanks for answering my question on the show guys! The detail and thought that Bob, and rest of you guys also, put into your answers was excellent. I really like how you guys interact with your fans so much. "B", As you probably guessed from my rather involved answer, it was a question that I really wanted to get a chance to use! Thanks for the conversation starter!
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Post by saucyimp on Sept 27, 2014 9:36:49 GMT -5
Great show as always, guys! Hearing Stephanie talk about Copperhead on the show was the best thing ever, and had me laughing so hard!Wasn't interested in that book before, but i'll definitely pick it now. Bahahahaha I'm so glad you're going to check it out based on my ridiculous review of it. It's honestly really interesting (and shit). If that isn't a pull quote for the jacket, I don't know what is.
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Post by deadanchoress on Sept 27, 2014 10:31:14 GMT -5
Whew, I have to say I'm a little concerned for the lack of love for Gotham. Am I the only person around who can just watch a show or movie and just be entertained? Yea, there are some problems (can't remember the last time I saw a perfect show), yes there was some cheesiness (anyone seen and loved Batman '66?? Anyone?). I know the movies and the original tv show, haven't read any Batmn until recently and that's Scott Snyder's stuff. I liked the feel, I liked the ideas. I agree that the performances were the best part (the Selena actress with her "cat" movements was tremendous & Cobblepot may steal the show) but at the end of the day, my concern and my reason for continuing to watch is "am I entertained"? And I was. I'm afraid that, as a society, we're suffering from the "American Idol effect", we've become overly critical of everything and it's hindering our ability to just enjoy stuff. Remember folks, there are people out there who know next to nothing about Batman, they need a little back story and a little of an origin story. AND, everything can't be "new & fresh" or boggled down by 75 years of continuity. Look at it as an "Elseworlds" look at Batman and enjoy. My biggest concern is ,just like some of y'all, I hope they don't try to humanize the villains (Penguin is off to a good start by NOT doing that). That, to me, would be the thing that turns me off, but I'll give this show a big thumbs up. *awkward cough* Greetings Sammie, I'm pretty sure that I went to bat for the show quite a bit. Additionally, I think it's safe to say that we all enjoyed it but perhaps were not bowled over by it yet either. It's difficult to get a sense of what something will become after only one pilot episode. Have no fear though, Gotham will stick around for at least a while and we'll all get to shape our opinions about the show as time marches on. I enjoyed it enough to keep watching, and that's really the best that they can hope for at this present time. Cheers man!
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Post by theboogieman on Sept 27, 2014 13:03:23 GMT -5
In answer to my own question, I think that the band Big Black, even though they haven't been around for years and years, would be suited to doing a song about the Criminal story, The Last of the Innocent, by Brubaker and Phillips. Or maybe doing an album based off of the Stray Bullets: Killers series.
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Post by saulkarnovsky on Sept 28, 2014 8:32:15 GMT -5
In regards to Gotham (I am an avid reader of the Batman comics having made my way through most of the significant runs of the character from the last 10 years up till the current series; I've also seen all the movies, including the animated stuff) I just watched the episode (after being initally hesitant, the lively discussion on the podcast actually made me MORE interested in seeing it) and I have to say I was very impressed. Knowing some of the criticisms going in helped as I could watch out for them and they didn't distract from the overall viewing. I agree that there is a couple of minor odd character moments (Nygma being the most obvious) and the script took a while to find its feet, but the show had real life to it. The cinematography was excellent, particularly how the show was lit and aside from Barbara Gordon the cast were very good across the board. You can really see that Bullock & Jim will develop into a complex and dynamic partnership. As all of the Talking Comics crew mentioned, Copplepot was also very effective and the actor gave him a real manic intensity that just had me wanting to see where he will evolve to next. I also had in my mind the comments mentioned on the podcast about seeing it as an else-worlds story and that added to my enjoyment. There is no need to nick pick continuity and I think the episode was a pretty great pilot. For me high production values, good acting, staying true to the spirit of the source material and interesting dynamics between characters are all the hallmarks for great television. Cant wait for ep. 2!! Also looking forward to the podtcast crew answering my question about their top 3 reasons why they love comics next week! Thanks guys
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Post by Bob Reyer on Sept 28, 2014 15:16:18 GMT -5
In regards to Gotham (I am an avid reader of the Batman comics having made my way through most of the significant runs of the character from the last 10 years up till the current series; I've also seen all the movies, including the animated stuff) I just watched the episode (after being initally hesitant, the lively discussion on the podcast actually made me MORE interested in seeing it) and I have to say I was very impressed. Knowing some of the criticisms going in helped as I could watch out for them and they didn't distract from the overall viewing. I agree that there is a couple of minor odd character moments (Nygma being the most obvious) and the script took a while to find its feet, but the show had real life to it. The cinematography was excellent, particularly how the show was lit and aside from Barbara Gordon the cast were very good across the board. You can really see that Bullock & Jim will develop into a complex and dynamic partnership. As all of the Talking Comics crew mentioned, Copplepot was also very effective and the actor gave him a real manic intensity that just had me wanting to see where he will evolve to next. I also had in my mind the comments mentioned on the podcast about seeing it as an else-worlds story and that added to my enjoyment. There is no need to nick pick continuity and I think the episode was a pretty great pilot. For me high production values, good acting, staying true to the spirit of the source material and interesting dynamics between characters are all the hallmarks for great television. Cant wait for ep. 2!! Also looking forward to the podtcast crew answering my question about their top 3 reasons why they love comics next week! Thanks guys Saul, I'm thinking that episode #2 will be my make-or-break moment; if there's forward movement as opposed to a side-trip into some of the soap-opera melodramatics that killed for me the first season of "Arrow", I'll hang in! ps) I hope that we get to your question, too! rrr
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Post by saulkarnovsky on Sept 28, 2014 19:23:14 GMT -5
I don't watch Arrow Bob, mostly because I could not get past the production values. The show had this very "TV show" look and that might sound odd, but I prefer when my TV looks more like a film. I think we have been spoilt now by shows like Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire and the like which have such high production values, anything less looks odd to me. I do hear it's good and maybe I should give it second chance. Having said all this I have watched the pilot for The Flash and I liked that.
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Post by Bob Reyer on Sept 28, 2014 19:39:57 GMT -5
I don't watch Arrow Bob, mostly because I could not get past the production values. The show had this very "TV show" look and that might sound odd, but I prefer when my TV looks more like a film. I think we have been spoilt now by shows like Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire and the like which have such high production values, anything less looks odd to me. I do hear it's good and maybe I should give it second chance. Having said all this I have watched the pilot for The Flash and I liked that. Saul, That's a great point, and one I agree with, but couldn't quite put into such fine wording! "Arrow" continues to strike me as very "CW teen drama", although I seem to be in the minority that holds that opinion, so I'm glad that there are now two of us at least! I didn't see the "Flash" pilot, but did see his intro on "Arrow", and I'm hoping for good things with the series!
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