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Post by Chapin on Apr 7, 2014 11:26:49 GMT -5
Just want to say, best episode ever. A bravura performance from Bob. I went and found the Englehart run and have been enjoying it tremendously. Thanks.
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Post by Bob Reyer on Apr 7, 2014 15:31:19 GMT -5
Just want to say, best episode ever. A bravura performance from Bob. I went and found the Englehart run and have been enjoying it tremendously. Thanks. Chapin, For all of us, I'll simply say thanks a bunch! Our interview with Steve Englehart is one of my favorites, so I hope that you've gotten a chance to listen--it will really enhance your reading of his run, too!
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Post by rgsc on Apr 7, 2014 19:49:18 GMT -5
Fantastic episode. I learned a great deal about Cap & look forward to exploring the rich history you've outlined. Bob - could you please remind me the issue numbers if the 'Cap in the '50s' arc you discussed? I tried to locate it on Marvel Unlimited but couldn't identify it. Thanks!
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Post by Bob Reyer on Apr 7, 2014 19:57:24 GMT -5
Fantastic episode. I learned a great deal about Cap & look forward to exploring the rich history you've outlined. Bob - could you please remind me the issue numbers if the 'Cap in the '50s' arc you discussed? I tried to locate it on Marvel Unlimited but couldn't identify it. Thanks! "R", Thanks for the kind words! The issues of Captain America that feature the "Cap of the Fifties" are #153--#156! (When you get a chance, you'll get a kick out of listening to our interview with my favorite "Cap" writer Steve Englehart, the author of the "Cap of the Fifties"!)
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Post by rgsc on Apr 7, 2014 20:46:26 GMT -5
Fantastic episode. I learned a great deal about Cap & look forward to exploring the rich history you've outlined. Bob - could you please remind me the issue numbers if the 'Cap in the '50s' arc you discussed? I tried to locate it on Marvel Unlimited but couldn't identify it. Thanks! "R", Thanks for the kind words! The issues of Captain America that feature the "Cap of the Fifties" are #153--#156! (When you get a chance, you'll get a kick out of listening to our interview with my favorite "Cap" writer Steve Englehart, the author of the "Cap of the Fifties"!) Wonderful - Thanks very much. I've got them now and look forward to reading them. I have the the interview cued up and am just waiting for an opportunity to listen. Looking forward to that as well! Cheers.
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Post by angelcakes83 on Apr 7, 2014 22:18:18 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this episode: I listened to it with my husband, who doesn't listen to a lot of podcasts, while I was on a trip.
I haven't read a lot of comics 70s-90s, except for Spider-Man, but I've been reading all the Marvel from 1965, and Avengers has some amazing Captain America stuff around the time the line-up changes to Cap, Hawkeye, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch. It goes from Cap being just one of the guys, generally respected by all, to the leader with a lot of untested former villains, who are all brash young things. In the meantime, he's suddenly realized that he doesn't have a life: no home, no job... As he puts it, "I sit at another man's table and eat another man's food." (Meaning Tony Stark, as he lives in the Avengers headquarters.) And he's always tired of the other Avengers (mainly Hawkeye) ragging on him all the time. I'm telling you, it's an emotional rollercoaster. Just start reading around Avengers 18 and have a blast.
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Post by Bob Reyer on Apr 8, 2014 0:30:25 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this episode: I listened to it with my husband, who doesn't listen to a lot of podcasts, while I was on a trip. I haven't read a lot of comics 70s-90s, except for Spider-Man, but I've been reading all the Marvel from 1965, and Avengers has some amazing Captain America stuff around the time the line-up changes to Cap, Hawkeye, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch. It goes from Cap being just one of the guys, generally respected by all, to the leader with a lot of untested former villains, who are all brash young things. In the meantime, he's suddenly realized that he doesn't have a life: no home, no job... As he puts it, "I sit at another man's table and eat another man's food." (Meaning Tony Stark, as he lives in the Avengers headquarters.) And he's always tired of the other Avengers (mainly Hawkeye) ragging on him all the time. I'm telling you, it's an emotional rollercoaster. Just start reading around Avengers 18 and have a blast. Angela, Thanks so much! The Avengers stories featuring "Cap's kooky quartet" had a very special dynamic as you so rightly point out! (I still feel the tugging at my heart-strings as Jan, Hank, Tony, and Thor say their farewells in #16!)
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Post by killingjoke71 on Apr 9, 2014 14:13:04 GMT -5
Hi Bob- I've been enjoying your podcast for some time..my first time actually posting to the forums. Thanks for the "Cap Re-Cap". I found it very informative and leading me to expand my reading on Cap now. Do you know if the comics have ever addressed how Cap received his "training?" Or perhaps was that also a byproduct of the Soldier serum? If you could recommend any issues that come to mind I would really appreciate it. Cheers- KJ71
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Post by Bob Reyer on Apr 9, 2014 16:40:41 GMT -5
Hi Bob- I've been enjoying your podcast for some time..my first time actually posting to the forums. Thanks for the "Cap Re-Cap". I found it very informative and leading me to expand my reading on Cap now. Do you know if the comics have ever addressed how Cap received his "training?" Or perhaps was that also a byproduct of the Soldier serum? If you could recommend any issues that come to mind I would really appreciate it. Cheers- KJ71 KJ, First off, let me extend our official welcome to the Forum! I'm sure you'll have a great time, although you're sure to hear about so many amazing comics that it'll be tough on your wallet! As to your question, you caught me just before I started re-filing all my Captain America books, so that worked out well! Off the top of my head, I didn't think that I had ever read an extended sequence showing Cap's training. Now, I can't say I've read every Cap story in every side-bar mini or special, but I just took a quick run through 3 long boxes and some hardcovers, and I didn't find anything in the vein you describe...though of course, I might have missed something, so take everything here-on with that caveat.Even in Captain America #1 back in 1940 he jumped straight into action without a word about his training, and when Stan and Jack re-told his origin in Tales of Suspense #63 in 1965, same thing. In the very nice 2008 Paul Jenkins/Paolo Rivera one-shot Captain America: Mythos there is a one-panel shot mentioning "rigorous training", and there is a fun mini from 1991 by Fabian Nicieza and Kevin Maguire called The Adventures of Captain America, Sentinel of Liberty that addresses Steve's earliest days as "Captain America", but which again doesn't have that specific sort of scene you're talking about. From what I've seen, most of the tellings of Cap's origin gloss over this point much in the way that the panel in the origin story in Batman #1 that shows him "training his body to physical perfection" does. All this said (*whew*), I would suggest that you pick up that Nicieza/Maguire mini, and more importantly, Captain America #255 from 1981 , which was the "40th Anniversary Issue" by Roger Stern and John Byrne that retells the origin with an homage to those very Batman panels, and then proceeds into a rollicking tale of Cap's first mission. I think all the Stern/Byrne "Caps" have been collected into a trade, and they come highly recommended from this office, but you may want to try one out first. I hope this helps, Bob
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