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Post by Simon on Apr 19, 2015 8:19:09 GMT -5
Same here in New Zealand, it's weird that even we are getting it ahead of the States.
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Post by Simon on Apr 22, 2015 6:41:33 GMT -5
That was an enjoyable film. I don't think it's my favourite film of the MCU films but I think it's up there.
Ultron's lips weird me out though
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Post by henrythemorerecent on Apr 25, 2015 1:27:10 GMT -5
Enjoyed the movie. Definitely not the best. But most importantly, as a fan of Man of Steel I'm really curious what the MoS haters will say. Because without being spoilery, the reasons for things happening, decisions made and destruction caused.... There's no way to defend it and not in turn defend Man of Steel. I think anyway. We'll see
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Post by harmonica on Apr 25, 2015 1:53:11 GMT -5
imo its not anything like MoS
Spoilery talk (mark to read)
anytime there was some huge destruction caused by the Avengers they made it very clear to signal you that there are no bystanders nearby
as for the movie i liked it but its not my favourite by far. im glad this was Joss's last Avengers i like his stuff and his humor but i thought there were just too much one liners in this one so that it felt more like a comedy than an action movie at times. still good but i just want something else for the next one
also fyi there is no after credits scene after the roll credits only after the cinematic credits
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Post by IncredibleD on Apr 25, 2015 15:25:40 GMT -5
Just saw it.
Liked the movie, though not as much as the first one(still my favourite Marvel movie), Guardians, and Cap 2.
Story was good, and i loved the action scenes, but i had a bit of a problem with the way some of the characters were different from the comics.I'm not a guy who minds when a movie does something different than the comic, if done right, but in this case some of it felt really forced to me.There's some other nitpicky stuff, but other than that its a solid movie.
Think i'll have to give this one an 8 out of 10, which isn't bad at all, but not as great as the last couple of MCU movies, which were a 9 or more for me.
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Post by henrythemorerecent on Apr 25, 2015 17:55:29 GMT -5
So what I meant when comparing it with Man of Steel wasn't in tone or anything, they are very clearly different movies. So yeah, not easy for what I was saying to make sense without being spoilery and I just figured out how to post spoilers in a forum First of all, in defense of Man of Steel, regardless of it being a Superman movie, you can argue that Superman isn't making great decision because he is very very new to it all. In AoU it is made perfectly clear they have all been doing this for a while now. Many missions etc. And yet there is no real villain in this movie. Tony Stark and Bruce Banner literally create Ultron so everything from that moment onwards is their fault. Then we have the Maximoff twins. They have their reasons but regardless are villains at the start. That fight in the city between Iron Man and Hulk is because of Wanda. But regardless, TONS of destrcuction is caused, blockes levelled, people killed very obviously by the Hulk. So even if they aren't responsible for their actions, she is. But then she redeems herself in the end and becomes an Avenger? Then we have the final act. Literally an ENTIRE city is obliterated. No two ways about it. It is effed up to a high degree. And again, how many lives were lost because of Ultrons robots? Everything in this movie is traced back to Tony Stark and Bruce Banner who should have known better, and all walk away smiling and joking. Now I'm saying all of this as somebody who enjoyed the movie. But there is just no way to continue criticizing the decisions made in Man of Steel without in turn comparing it to this film. Tone, story, acting etc of Man of Steel aside is a different story. Everyone can hate that movie if they want, for those reasons. But as somebody constantly defending DC at every turn, I feel like I finally have a valid reason. As a complete side note, my criticism of Age of Ultron is the "Classic Whedon Twist", I'm sorry but death is not a "clever" twist anymore when you are known for it let alone in a universe where it clearly doesn't count *cough*Coulson*cough* Anyway, I sincerely hope these kinds of things are brought up in the podcast, because as the amazing Gail Simone once said "marvel fans tend to overlook their flaws, DC fans tend to overlook their successes" |
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Post by theboogieman on Apr 26, 2015 10:25:22 GMT -5
Here's my thoughts on the movie, copied from the 'rate the last movie you saw' thread.
8/10
This movie was great, but I felt it could have been better. It had a lot of interesting themes and ideas incorporated into it like artificial intelligence, distrust and conflict within the Avengers themselves, whether the Avengers are actually as much a force for good as they think they are, and probably others it touched on that I'm forgetting. While these themes and ideas were interesting and enriched the movie, and added more layers and complexity to it, I felt that they weren't explored as much as they could have been, and not enough actually came of all this thought and ideas. I liked the addition of the twins, with Scarlet Witch being an interesting character and definitely adding something more to the film. Quicksilver hardly said anything at all in the film, but was nonetheless a fun addition. I also thought more could have definitely been done with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, and that those two characters and back-stories were under-utilized as well.
Overall, it was a great movie, but didn't go anywhere the Marvel movies haven't taken the audience to with their previous films, and didn't push the envelope as much as I thought it showed the potential to, for Marvel movies. I thought it improved on the first Avengers movie, and was on par with Captain America: the Winter Soldier. But, it wasn't better than Winter Soldier in my opinion, although it definitely could have been. I hardly noticed that it was 2 and a half hours long though; it never felt slow to me. Maybe one reason why the themes and ideas I mentioned, and the twins, were under-utilized and underdeveloped was because Joss Whedon had too much going on in the film, and too much on his plate to juggle at once.
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Post by Bob Reyer on Apr 27, 2015 15:57:30 GMT -5
Just came across this, which is too funny to believe:
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Post by henrythemorerecent on Apr 27, 2015 17:31:07 GMT -5
Just read that Joss Whedon was forced to cut over an hour from this movie. Explains a lot. Also explains why he seems to have jumped ship.
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Post by thephantomwelshman on Apr 28, 2015 0:26:40 GMT -5
I thought it was pretty decent, I'd give it an 7 out 10. Was nice to see Hawkeye get some character development. Is it just me, or did anyone else find the CGI a bit below par? I felt the opening sequence was like watching computer game animation.
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Post by rgsc on May 1, 2015 13:41:27 GMT -5
I thought it was pretty decent, I'd give it an 7 out 10. Was nice to see Hawkeye get some character development. Is it just me, or did anyone else find the CGI a bit below par? I felt the opening sequence was like watching computer game animation. That opening scene was rough. It set the tone poorly for me. Just read that Joss Whedon was forced to cut over an hour from this movie. Explains a lot. Also explains why he seems to have jumped ship. When I first heard this (before seeing the film) I was pre-excited for the director's cut. Now I am not so sure. Maybe it could improve things or maybe it will just be bloated. There is a lot to be said for a good editor. All in all, I came out thinking it was a good, but not great, movie. There was some nice character development and cool comic-booky stuff and no real glaring plot holes or weakness in the story points (if you accept the basic elements of the MCU). I found, however, that even with the dozen BIG action scenes there wasn't a great deal of momentum in the film. It was kind of one-note throughout. I think it spent so much time setting up the next big phase - Civil War & Infinity - that it took focus away from telling a good, more-or-less self-contained story. I went in wanting to lovelovelove it and came out liking it. I think I'll try to see it in theatres again so I can give it another go without the weight of expectation. |
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Post by henrythemorerecent on May 3, 2015 15:44:11 GMT -5
I thought it was pretty decent, I'd give it an 7 out 10. Was nice to see Hawkeye get some character development. Is it just me, or did anyone else find the CGI a bit below par? I felt the opening sequence was like watching computer game animation. That opening scene was rough. It set the tone poorly for me. Just read that Joss Whedon was forced to cut over an hour from this movie. Explains a lot. Also explains why he seems to have jumped ship. When I first heard this (before seeing the film) I was pre-excited for the director's cut. Now I am not so sure. Maybe it could improve things or maybe it will just be bloated. There is a lot to be said for a good editor. All in all, I came out thinking it was a good, but not great, movie. There was some nice character development and cool comic-booky stuff and no real glaring plot holes or weakness in the story points (if you accept the basic elements of the MCU). I found, however, that even with the dozen BIG action scenes there wasn't a great deal of momentum in the film. It was kind of one-note throughout. I think it spent so much time setting up the next big phase - Civil War & Infinity - that it took focus away from telling a good, more-or-less self-contained story. I went in wanting to lovelovelove it and came out liking it. I think I'll try to see it in theatres again so I can give it another go without the weight of expectation. Yep totally agree. It feels like the Iron Man 2 of the Avengers movies. Not terrible, but it doesn't do much to move the story forward at all. The fact that Tony and Cap are still buddies at the end seems like such a mixed opportunity. As I said in my spoiler post, Tony is responsible for creating the villain, so this would be a perfect time for him and Cap to start butting heads. But nope, just a handshake and a ride off into the sunset. |
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Post by BarefootRoot on May 3, 2015 20:21:03 GMT -5
just saw it and I think I'm in the same or similar boat as everyone else. I went in expecting something awesome and what I got was something decent. some thoughts: 1. can't take my kids to see it. they are 6 and 8, some scenes were a little too dark for young kids and there were way too many sex jokes. 2. about halfway through I found myself wondering if every avenger movie would use the same plot device (spoiler-highlight): Make them fight each other3. I liked that they brought out Clint more. I'm more a fan of Fraction/Aja's Clint, but this made his character feel less crummy.
4. went in thinking I would not like Wanda, nothing about her made me change my mind.
5. went in thinking I would not like Pietro, I wound up liking him a fair bit. (spoiler-highlight): I was super bummed they killed him off. he was just getting interesting.6. (spoiler-highlight): I loved the part where Cap tries lifting Thor's hammer and it moves just a tiny bit. Watching Thor's eyes get big and suck in his breath was funny as hell!7 . (spoiler-highlight): it was pretty obvious in the party scene where Don Cheadle and the guy who plays Falcon show up that one way or another they were setting up the cast for the next one without Robert Downey Jr, potentially without Chris Hemsworth and potentially without Mark Ruffalo. Wanda, War Machine, The Vision and The Falcon, as characters and how they are played by their respective actors, are far less interesting than Iron Man, Thor and Bruce Banner. The cast they set up doesn't really interest me and I'm not sure I care about those characters enough to bother with in 2 years.8. they ran the original teaser for Force Awakens... couldn't they have given us a cool new trailer? Or at least the one with Han and Chewie? I know that has nothing to do with it  All in all I can't say I didn't enjoy myself. It's a decent movie and it was an entertaining couple hours. But I must have had the bar set a little high because I was a little bit disappointed walking out. This might be a knee jerk reaction and I may need to sleep on it and/or see it a second time to really feel better about it, but right now I'll be the complete downer and say that while it was worth seeing once I don't feel the desire to watch it again and it kind of killed my interest in another Avengers movie. I think I would rather just re-watch Daredevil... Now the Ant Man trailer at the beginning where Thomas the Tank Engine runs into the bad guy and falls off the track? That was awesome |
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Post by Bob Reyer on May 4, 2015 5:32:20 GMT -5
Did anyone see this on SNL this Saturday?
I think it's hysterical, and also fairly telling about some of the issues that surround both the movie studios, and the general audience's reactions to a female-fronted super-hero film.
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Post by rosscarter on May 4, 2015 10:02:03 GMT -5
So I'll admit that I'm pretty easy-to-please when it comes to super hero movies, but yeah, I absolutely loved it. Really my only nit-picks are with the sometimes TOO Whedon-y dialogue (really, there's no reason for Black Widow to squeal "excuse me, coming through, sorry!" when riding a motorcycle through a city.) However, I did enjoy many of the quips.
What will be interesting is if Tony will be framed as a full-on villain in Civil War or if it'll be left up to the viewers to take sides. It almost seemed like their hinting on villainy for him.
Also, I know many have issues with super hero movies being "bloated" with too many characters, but man-oh-man was I excited when the extra characters showed up at the end!
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