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Post by miked on Jan 29, 2014 2:08:50 GMT -5
i just finished reading Deadly Class #1 and i have a serious question--one that i've been faced with before lately: does one keep reading a book that has a cliche premise if the writing is otherwise good? i liked Deadly Class--especially the art, colors, and design of it--but while i liked the Oliver Twist aspect of it, the "school of assassins" thing is seriously over-played. i realize that this is delving deep into personal preference territory, but i'm curious to hear from some other people who read the issue. i'm very torn on whether i'm going to continue reading. drocat, you said you liked it. how do you feel about my issue? |
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Post by drocat on Jan 29, 2014 11:29:55 GMT -5
I think it's all up to the reader. A lot of people LOVE Dead Body Road, but I still feel like it's just another Punisher rip-off revenge tale. I'm not a huge fan of that kind of stuff, but I think the writing and art is so good that I'm going to give it a chance.
The reason that I like it is that it's an interesting twist on a somewhat over-played concept. It really does feel like the school is a little bit too much Xavier's school but maybe not.
I also really like grungy punk rock/noir stuff which this series seems to have a lot of.
I think that what you're saying is completely understandable and warranted. I really see where you're coming from.
I'd say give it a chance for a while, Rick Remender is an awesome right. I think just because a premise isn't entirely unique that maybe some of the characters and other elements of the story could flesh out to become something entirely original.
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Post by miked on Jan 30, 2014 14:29:40 GMT -5
Yeah, i didn't even bother picking up Dead Body Road for that reason. Revenge stories don't do anything for me.
I'll probably give Deadly Class a second issue, but i think it's going to have to take a really interesting turn in order to hold my interest.
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Post by CaptainSuperior on Jan 30, 2014 16:28:37 GMT -5
I have really mixed feelings about the issue overall. I'm still debating on whether or not to give issue 2 a shot.
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Post by joestate on Jan 30, 2014 19:34:18 GMT -5
I feel like I liked it once it started picking up. I found myself being really put off by the main character, eventually I came around but it wasn't until about 3/4 through the book. I will pick up another issue to see how I feel, I think it's definitely worth another shot.
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Post by khan2112 on Jan 30, 2014 23:24:34 GMT -5
I loved Deadly Class. Had a cool punk vibe. Love that I had no clue where it was going AT ALL until the very end. The action sequences in the middle of the book were top notch
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Post by IncredibleD on Feb 1, 2014 0:20:36 GMT -5
Haven't read this yet but i'm definitely interested.
What i usually do with Image, if i'm not sure if i'll like it i wait for about a month because then it gets a little bit cheaper(i'm a cheapskate).
Got a lot of other stuff to read in the meantime.
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Post by othersummersbrother on Feb 1, 2014 23:58:36 GMT -5
I read it earlier today. Ok, this seems like a miss of A few titles on the stands like Morning Glories, and that one IMAGE title with Weapons in the title. So the story didn't blow me over, but coupled with the art, I'd pick up the trade.
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Post by drocat on Feb 2, 2014 14:24:55 GMT -5
I feel like I liked it once it started picking up. I found myself being really put off by the main character, eventually I came around but it wasn't until about 3/4 through the book. I will pick up another issue to see how I feel, I think it's definitely worth another shot. I also wasn't sold on it until it got going, but I actually really liked the main character. I liked how it showed the world of being homeless in a different light. It made the main character seem like an asshole, until the part where the guy stole his shoes. It shows that if you find yourself homeless it's really hard to have a heart about anything, but this character does. I'm just curious: Why didn't you like the character? |
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Post by joestate on Feb 4, 2014 18:00:22 GMT -5
I feel like I liked it once it started picking up. I found myself being really put off by the main character, eventually I came around but it wasn't until about 3/4 through the book. I will pick up another issue to see how I feel, I think it's definitely worth another shot. I also wasn't sold on it until it got going, but I actually really liked the main character. I liked how it showed the world of being homeless in a different light. It made the main character seem like an asshole, until the part where the guy stole his shoes. It shows that if you find yourself homeless it's really hard to have a heart about anything, but this character does. I'm just curious: Why didn't you like the character? To be honest growing up in the punk scene, where it was popular for kids to be "street kids" when they had the choice to have a home, or people would fake being homeless and beg for change and take in $200 a day while I was working crappy fast food jobs since I was 15, it was pretty easy to get jaded. Also I had a very close friend who was my "twin", he kept up that life and hopped trains and just recently died living that life style. This character just reminded me of that. |
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Post by bookend57 on Feb 4, 2014 18:10:50 GMT -5
Honestly, It's the best #1 I've read in, I don't even know how long. In just this first issue I think Deadly Class has already bucked the "revenge/assassin school" trends and cliches by developing a strong lead protagonist with a back story that makes me already care about him and feel for he and his struggles. I liked this more than any of the three Black Science issues released so far. The artwork is very nice, but what sets this apart from other recent releases in terms of the art is the paneling. Oh the paneling, its just phenomenal. I also give Remender a lot of credit for divulging a lot of the necessary back story and exposition that comes with a #1 issue without the story feeling dull or dragged out. We already know a lot about our main character and that leaves the door open in future issues to develop some of the supporting players. I could go on and on about how much I loved this book, but at the expense of rambling on...an A/A+ issue from me, especially considering its a #1.
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Post by drocat on Feb 5, 2014 19:33:25 GMT -5
I also wasn't sold on it until it got going, but I actually really liked the main character. I liked how it showed the world of being homeless in a different light. It made the main character seem like an asshole, until the part where the guy stole his shoes. It shows that if you find yourself homeless it's really hard to have a heart about anything, but this character does. I'm just curious: Why didn't you like the character? To be honest growing up in the punk scene, where it was popular for kids to be "street kids" when they had the choice to have a home, or people would fake being homeless and beg for change and take in $200 a day while I was working crappy fast food jobs since I was 15, it was pretty easy to get jaded. Also I had a very close friend who was my "twin", he kept up that life and hopped trains and just recently died living that life style. This character just reminded me of that. I feel ya there. Homeless "gutter punks" as I call them really piss me off. That's kind of why I liked this character. I always find myself hating on the homeless and always assuming that they are just gutter punks. I don't know. That's the beauty of comics though: people can relate differently to different characters. |
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Post by michaelk on Feb 9, 2014 20:27:20 GMT -5
i just finished reading Deadly Class #1 and i have a serious question--one that i've been faced with before lately: does one keep reading a book that has a cliche premise if the writing is otherwise good? i liked Deadly Class--especially the art, colors, and design of it--but while i liked the Oliver Twist aspect of it, the "school of assassins" thing is seriously over-played. i realize that this is delving deep into personal preference territory, but i'm curious to hear from some other people who read the issue. i'm very torn on whether i'm going to continue reading. drocat, you said you liked it. how do you feel about my issue? I'm with you! Loved the design, the colors, the layouts. I liked the character's voice too, but look, I've seen Amelie like 1,000 times, and so, when the tragedy of this character's life happens to be a fat lady falling on his parents and killing them, I'm sorry, but I had to laugh. And I thought the book started off leisurely, but thoughtfully, we started to get the know the main character and see his world, and then all of the sudden, like BAM!, these other kids are all around him and he shows 'promise' to the headmaster of the school for assassins and what I wanted to know is, what was so promising about him? The last pages of the book, the narrative movement, seemed contrived, and while I tend to give monthly comics a few issues to get the meat of the story on the bones, I feel like Remender asks a bit too much with this first offering. I'll read the next issue to see if the 'promise' of the main character is revealed, but I might hold out and see what his other forthcoming Image release, Low, has to offer. |
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Post by miked on Feb 10, 2014 17:58:27 GMT -5
i just finished reading Deadly Class #1 and i have a serious question--one that i've been faced with before lately: does one keep reading a book that has a cliche premise if the writing is otherwise good? i liked Deadly Class--especially the art, colors, and design of it--but while i liked the Oliver Twist aspect of it, the "school of assassins" thing is seriously over-played. i realize that this is delving deep into personal preference territory, but i'm curious to hear from some other people who read the issue. i'm very torn on whether i'm going to continue reading. drocat, you said you liked it. how do you feel about my issue? I'm with you! Loved the design, the colors, the layouts. I liked the character's voice too, but look, I've seen Amelie like 1,000 times, and so, when the tragedy of this character's life happens to be a fat lady falling on his parents and killing them, I'm sorry, but I had to laugh. And I thought the book started off leisurely, but thoughtfully, we started to get the know the main character and see his world, and then all of the sudden, like BAM!, these other kids are all around him and he shows 'promise' to the headmaster of the school for assassins and what I wanted to know is, what was so promising about him? The last pages of the book, the narrative movement, seemed contrived, and while I tend to give monthly comics a few issues to get the meat of the story on the bones, I feel like Remender asks a bit too much with this first offering. I'll read the next issue to see if the 'promise' of the main character is revealed, but I might hold out and see what his other forthcoming Image release, Low, has to offer. oh, man! i totally missed the Amelie connection! i'm so ashamed. I agree, though, with your assessment of the suddenness of meeting the other students and whatever "talent" he's supposed to have. It felt like he's pushing the story on the characters instead of allowing it to happen naturally. |
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Post by captainsaxon on Feb 22, 2014 8:52:58 GMT -5
If the writing is cliche or falls heavily into a somewhat popular or overplayed archetype, provided I like the archetype, I will try it. In this case, I really like Assasination Training stories, or "How to be a Badass Academy" stories, so I'm already interested, throw in a punk rock vibe, good characters, with REmender at the helm (calling it now 2014 will be the year of the Remender), I'm sold. This may have been my issue of the year so far.
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