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Post by wamphari on Jul 16, 2015 21:46:34 GMT -5
Wow, just keep waiting for Marvel pictures to stumble and they keep firmly on their feet. What a fun movie, fun characters, great time. I think they really went for the right tone, not too high a stakes and focusing on clever, witty humor. Everyone very well cast (especially Scott's three henchman ("you could say I let you let me")), Evangaline Lilly great and tough, plays off Rudd in a fun fresh way. Tell your friends who don't like comics to see this movie.
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Ant-Man
Jul 17, 2015 6:52:22 GMT -5
Post by rgsc on Jul 17, 2015 6:52:22 GMT -5
Wow, just keep waiting for Marvel pictures to stumble and they keep firmly on their feet. What a fun movie, fun characters, great time. I think they really went for the right tone, not too high a stakes and focusing on clever, witty humor. Everyone very well cast (especially Scott's three henchman ("you could say I let you let me")), Evangaline Lilly great and tough, plays off Rudd in a fun fresh way. Tell your friends who don't like comics to see this movie. A- Yup - you sum it up perfectly. I went in with little to no expectations other than hoping it was a good time and I came out loving it. Lots of funny moments. Sure, a lot of the best ones were in the trailers but they still landed really well (and in a few spots took the jokes even further so they were still fresh). But it also was still serious when it needed to be. Great effects & action; really fun interaction between the three leads and excellent supporting characters. What surprised me a fair bit was how tied into the rest of the MCU. There were the references to recent films, as we saw in Daredevil etc, but also some guest appearances which I didn't see coming. It is playing into the larger universe - and helping setup the next film(s) - without being bogged down by it. Also, I saw it in AVX 3D & tried out the crazy "D-Box" motion seats for the first time - was like one of those motion rides at an amusement parks which was pretty fun, especially when he was going down the water pipe. Not necessary by any stretch of the imagination & probably not even worth the extra $5, but if you get your tickets using points (at least the Cineplex Scene points in Canada) it takes the same amount of points as the other AVX tickets. |
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Ant-Man
Jul 17, 2015 23:15:17 GMT -5
Post by CaptainSuperior on Jul 17, 2015 23:15:17 GMT -5
Another rock solid addition to the MCU.
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Ant-Man
Jul 19, 2015 15:49:44 GMT -5
Post by henrythemorerecent on Jul 19, 2015 15:49:44 GMT -5
I'm really surprised this movie has gotten the positive reaction it got. I walked in with really low expectations and was really bored with it. It wasn't terrible. Just really bland. Generally if I walk in with low expectations I'm pleasantly surprised (Terminator Genysis) But not this.
I also LOVE Paul Rudd. He is extremely likeable and funny and just a good underrated actor. But this just didn't utilise any of his good traits. He wasn't particularly funny, but he didn't really get a good chance to be serious. Chris Pratt in Guardians seemed to be utilised perfectly. But I feel like you could have put any generic actor in Ant Man and it would have played exactly the same. Which is a shame because I seriously love Paul Rudd (They Came Together... funniest movie of all time) This felt like Marvel-filtered-Rudd. Them just saying "Hey you know everything about you we could really put to good use in this movie? Lets not." Just generic down on his luck family guy who is wicked clever but also ripped and knows parkour.
But yeah... I don't know. There were 2 standout moments though that I really felt Edgar Wrights hand in it and it was Michael Pena's monologues and the train set action piece. In fact that final fight scene would have to be the most clever idea for an action scene in a long long time. And Michael Pena is so likeable. Speaking of, I've only ever really seen Evangeline Lily in a few episodes of Lost and the Hobbit, but for some reason in this I really enjoyed her performance. Everything else in the movie felt so forced-funny emotional, but she never felt over dramatic, or even compared to Bryce Dallas Howard, over the top cold and corporate. She just seemed normal.
But those didn't really save the movie for me. I usually keep my phone off during movies so I don't get an interuption. I turned it back on to check the time about halfway through. And That Falcon scene? Felt SO shoehorned in.
And yet again another big bad corporate mogul wanting to profit off war. Iron Man? Iron Man 2? Iron Man 3? Jurassic World even! It's been done to absolute death now. And this movie spent a good half an hour setting it up and discussing it in fine, detail. It's not complicated. Bad guy wants money and power. The end. I wish these movies would stop trying to make it out to be more complex than it is.
And the mid-credits scene, come on Marvel. Not only do you shoehorn in a female hero scene into an after credits, you make it so on the nose with that last line as if to say "See guys, we're finally getting around to it. You can shut up now." Seriously, you cannot go through 12 movies going on 17 without a female lead superhero and act like hinting at it now calls for praise. Time to play catch-up. Marvel has more noteable female heroes than DC, a 5 year head start and we're still getting a female superhero movie from DC first? Shame. Not to mention the fact that Hope, as mentioned, has all the knowledge, training and access to complete the mission. But her dad chooses a criminal instead. And I know there's that "expendable" speech. But I don't buy that.
I'm hoping that with Star Wars and Dawn of Justice due out before the next Marvel movie, Marvel will stop being the be-all-end-all. Something different is definitely welcome and Ant-Man has made me more excited for Fantastic Four than I thought. Both Avengers and Ant-Man felt like Marvel force-choking the life out of the writers, directors and actors. Looking forward to a superhero/sci-fi movie with actual passion behind it.
But keeping positive, this movie did result in the Paul Rudd Nerdist podcast episode that just came out. It is hilarious and just makes a likeable guy even more likeable. Check it out everyone. |
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Ant-Man
Jul 20, 2015 7:44:30 GMT -5
Post by BarefootRoot on Jul 20, 2015 7:44:30 GMT -5
honestly, I liked it a lot more than Age of Ultron. It reminded me of the first time I saw Iron Man (the first one): I went in with no real expectations and walked out having had a fun time. Hope's wig was awful would be my only real complaint. it didn't look like it belonged on her head.  |
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Ant-Man
Jul 20, 2015 15:26:02 GMT -5
Post by henrythemorerecent on Jul 20, 2015 15:26:02 GMT -5
honestly, I liked it a lot more than Age of Ultron. It reminded me of the first time I saw Iron Man (the first one): I went in with no real expectations and walked out having had a fun time. Hope's wig was awful would be my only real complaint. it didn't look like it belonged on her head. Not trying to be sarcastic, but it probably reminds you of the first Iron Man because it basically is: Hero making bad life choices. Has a powerful suit. Evil boss of a company wanting to use suits power as a weapon. Ends with a fight scene of both of them in suits. Bad guy dies. Hero learns valuable life lesson. The end. |
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Ant-Man
Jul 21, 2015 7:29:46 GMT -5
Post by CaptainSuperior on Jul 21, 2015 7:29:46 GMT -5
honestly, I liked it a lot more than Age of Ultron. It reminded me of the first time I saw Iron Man (the first one): I went in with no real expectations and walked out having had a fun time. Hope's wig was awful would be my only real complaint. it didn't look like it belonged on her head. Not trying to be sarcastic, but it probably reminds you of the first Iron Man because it basically is: Hero making bad life choices. Has a powerful suit. Evil boss of a company wanting to use suits power as a weapon. Ends with a fight scene of both of them in suits. Bad guy dies. Hero learns valuable life lesson. The end. Lol, that's not an Iron Man thing. That's basic superhero storytelling 101. In my personal opinion originality is over hyped in today's cultural mindset. What really matters is who can tell the story the best, despite it's major similarities to other works. A primary example of this is Shakespeare, where the vast majority of his plays are based off people stories or text, but he told their exact same stories in a unique and captivating way. Well this conversation went a little off the farm, but it's what I think about when we start talking about originality. |
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Ant-Man
Jul 21, 2015 15:49:13 GMT -5
Post by henrythemorerecent on Jul 21, 2015 15:49:13 GMT -5
Not trying to be sarcastic, but it probably reminds you of the first Iron Man because it basically is: Hero making bad life choices. Has a powerful suit. Evil boss of a company wanting to use suits power as a weapon. Ends with a fight scene of both of them in suits. Bad guy dies. Hero learns valuable life lesson. The end. Lol, that's not an Iron Man thing. That's basic superhero storytelling 101. In my personal opinion originality is over hyped in today's cultural mindset. What really matters is who can tell the story the best, despite it's major similarities to other works. A primary example of this is Shakespeare, where the vast majority of his plays are based off people stories or text, but he told their exact same stories in a unique and captivating way. Well this conversation went a little off the farm, but it's what I think about when we start talking about originality. Good point. I think it's one of those cases where I didn't enjoy something and hear someone elses similar opinion eg Ant-Man, I start using their arguments as well as my own. Honestly it wasn't until someone pointed it out to me the plots for Ant-Man and Iron Man were similar. Had they not said it I wouldn't have noticed.
And all my dislike for Ant-Man aside, it did make me feel like watching everything with Paul Rudd which, even though it came from disappointment, is still a good thing. And speaking of, the Wet Hot American Summer Netflix series starts next week. Anyone who hasn't seen the movie do it. To sum it up, it was a 2001 movie half spoofying 80's school camp Meatballs movies with a cast very clearly too old to play teenagers (Amy Poehler, Paul Rudd, Bradley Cooper, Janeane Garofalo, Michael Ian Black etc) and this Netflix series is a prequel set 2 months before the movie, but everyone looking 14 years older than before.
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Ant-Man
Jul 21, 2015 20:02:38 GMT -5
Post by Chapin on Jul 21, 2015 20:02:38 GMT -5
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Ant-Man
Jul 23, 2015 14:06:25 GMT -5
Post by harmonica on Jul 23, 2015 14:06:25 GMT -5
so that movie was a pleasant surprise, definitely exceeded my expecations, really funny, cool scenes and really cool integration into the larger universe, that scene at the stark warehouse felt so awesome "comicbooky" also awesome things to come in the future
also i really liked the small scale of it, pun not intended. i feel this was exactly the kind of movie they have to do to counteract the dreaded "superhero movie fatigue"
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Ant-Man
Jul 25, 2015 17:06:50 GMT -5
Post by IncredibleD on Jul 25, 2015 17:06:50 GMT -5
Loved it!
Didn't really expect i would thanks to one of the first trailers, but it just goes to show you can't trust those things at all.
Thought the story was very well told, and i liked almost all of the characters(didn't even mind the villain, which i totally thought i would), especially Scott Lang.Rudd did a great job, in my opinion, i was immediately interested in his character and his story.But the action scenes are what did it for me.There were so many great scenes with the suit being used.And i also loved the ants, and how they were being used.Also really liked both post credits scenes.
Was pleasantly surprised by this one, it had everything i hoped an Ant-Man movie would have.Don't know where it ranks for me right now, but its definitely up there with some of the best MCU movies, in my opinion.
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