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Post by Huw on Jun 17, 2015 15:07:28 GMT -5
Issue #190: Secret Wars vs. Convergence, Starfire #1, and Black Canary #1
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Oh haaaaay there! It’s time for a new Talking Comics podcast featuring Bobby, Bob and Stephanie this week. Not much news dropped this week so things kick off with lots of comic book talk (shocking, I know).
Lightning Round
Gotham Academy #7, Harley Quinn #17, Silver Surfer #12, Spider-Gwen #5, Captain Marvel and the Carol Corps #1, Silk #5, Black Canary #1, Barb Wire #1, Arcadia #1, All-Star Section 8, Saga #29, Weirdworld #1, Injection #2, Harrow County #2, Batman #41.
Book of the Week
Captain America and the Mighty Avengers #9, 1602: Witch Hunter Angela #1, Constantine: The Hellblazer #1.
Shared Book of the Week
Starfire by Amanda Conner and Jimmy Palmiotti
Next week’s #TCBOTW is: The Fiction #1 by Curt Pires and David Rubin
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Post by BarefootRoot on Jun 17, 2015 15:43:00 GMT -5
I mentioned this on Steph's board, but I agree with her about Starfire, at least based on the little bit I read (I read a few preview pages). Mostly I was looking into it because she has become my daughter's favorite superhero from watching Teen Titans GO!. From the little bit I read I decided to walk away as it didn't seem like something to give an 8 year old girl (her attitude just didn't feel right and the 3rd page had a semi-pinup kind of image I didn't think was appropriate for that particular audience), and after hearing some of the issues Steph brought up I am glad I walked away.
This is something I really hate DC for. Take an 8 year old girl and introduce her to their characters using a great show like TTG! and if that kid wants more of one of those characters they are kind of up shit creek. Yes, you can go from the show to the comic, but if my daughter wants more Starfire this is all there is that is easy to obtain unless I want to have her read the books with Starfire in horrible stripper costumes. It feels like a real bait and switch and I feel bad for the kids who expect the Starfire (or whatever character) they know and love to be the Starfire that shows up in the comics. I'm sure this book (and maybe the character in general) isn't aimed at 8 year old girls, but if that's the case then why introduce that character through cartoons aimed at pre-teens?
Sorry for the rant. It's just the Grumpy Dad coming out.
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Post by angelus104 on Jun 17, 2015 15:48:12 GMT -5
I mean you aren't wrong. But I think you answered your own question, regardless of the specific critiques it's not meant for an 8 year old just like most of DC's books. I know they publish a Teen Titans Go comic book www.dccomics.com/comics/teen-titans-go-2013/teen-titans-go-1Maybe that's something to try? Thanks for the feedback! |
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Post by BarefootRoot on Jun 17, 2015 16:04:11 GMT -5
I mean you aren't wrong. But I think you answered your own question, regardless of the specific critiques it's not meant for an 8 year old just like most of DC's books. I know they publish a Teen Titans Go comic book www.dccomics.com/comics/teen-titans-go-2013/teen-titans-go-1Maybe that's something to try? Thanks for the feedback! thanks Bobby.  She is already a subscriber to the comic (she has her own Comixology account!) in addition to having the season pass for the show on VUDU.  I guess where I wound up was less of a question rather than kind of what I feel is a damning observation on what DC is doing and something I wish they would improve upon. I just don't see the logic in introducing characters to kids who are far too young to be reading the comics those characters are featured in. Now, if we were talking about a character from Young Justice or one of the other shows aimed at the 10-15 crowd, I wouldn't really have as much of a beef. But a show that my 6 year old son and 8 year old daughter can enjoy? if the nature of those characters is inappropriate for kids that age, maybe they shouldn't be featured in a show aimed at kids that age? again, this is from the perspective of Grumpy Dad, so just voicing frustration. thanks for giving me a place to vent that isn't just me going back and forth in my own head. I really appreciate it |
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Post by henrythemorerecent on Jun 17, 2015 19:00:37 GMT -5
Not to butt in. But just on your point "if the nature of those characters is inappropriate for kids that age, maybe they shouldn't be featured in a show aimed at kids that age?" I'd have to disagree. I think its better that a character can be featured in 2 seperate kinds of media for 2 different age groups. Gives everybody a chance.
You can't damn Brave and the Bold for making Batman accessible to kids when the comics are dark and violent. Its an introduction and an opportunity. Just because they can't read the comics now, doesn't mean they have to miss out altogether. And eventually that love for the kids shows will stay with them as an adult and they, like most of us today, will grow up and look for comics for us. I don't enjoy the 66 Batman show now. But as a kid it was the best thing ever. And now Batman is my favourite character. But I wasn't watching it when I was 5 years old with a copy of Dark Knight Returns next to me.
But also I feel like pretty much everything that is aimed at kids has some hint of adult to it to make it both entertaining for kids and adults. I think of every single movie I enjoyed as a kid and have rewatched since and can see much deeper or just different things. Even inuendo. Pixar movies have dirty jokes in them for the odd adult, but for a kid it doesn't mean anything. I'm not saying its 100% right to do. But, for example, I'm not going to fault Marvel for that Jackson Pollock joke in Guardians of the Galaxy even though most of the audience are kids. I took an 8 year old to see that as well as all the Marvel movies and he was entertained by the movie, not walking out of it saying "What was with that Jackson Pollock joke?"
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Post by BarefootRoot on Jun 18, 2015 8:51:45 GMT -5
Not to butt in. But just on your point "if the nature of those characters is inappropriate for kids that age, maybe they shouldn't be featured in a show aimed at kids that age?" I'd have to disagree. I think its better that a character can be featured in 2 seperate kinds of media for 2 different age groups. Gives everybody a chance. You can't damn Brave and the Bold for making Batman accessible to kids when the comics are dark and violent. Its an introduction and an opportunity. Just because they can't read the comics now, doesn't mean they have to miss out altogether. And eventually that love for the kids shows will stay with them as an adult and they, like most of us today, will grow up and look for comics for us. I don't enjoy the 66 Batman show now. But as a kid it was the best thing ever. And now Batman is my favourite character. But I wasn't watching it when I was 5 years old with a copy of Dark Knight Returns next to me. But also I feel like pretty much everything that is aimed at kids has some hint of adult to it to make it both entertaining for kids and adults. I think of every single movie I enjoyed as a kid and have rewatched since and can see much deeper or just different things. Even inuendo. Pixar movies have dirty jokes in them for the odd adult, but for a kid it doesn't mean anything. I'm not saying its 100% right to do. But, for example, I'm not going to fault Marvel for that Jackson Pollock joke in Guardians of the Galaxy even though most of the audience are kids. I took an 8 year old to see that as well as all the Marvel movies and he was entertained by the movie, not walking out of it saying "What was with that Jackson Pollock joke?" oh feel free. If I hadn't wanted to have a conversation I would have kept it to myself I see your point and it's completely valid, but it doesn't make me any less bummed for my daughter. Starfire in particular makes a weird jump from kid-friendly to 16+ without any kind of bridge between the two (at least to my knowledge). Doing a little more research on the topic, it sounds like they might be actually doing something to alleviate my concerns though with this: www.dccomics.com/blog/2015/04/22/wb-and-dc-entertainment-in-partnership-with-mattel-launch-dc-super-hero-girlsif this gets done well it would totally make me feel better about DC. |
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Post by tomoe on Jun 18, 2015 14:15:03 GMT -5
I have to admit, I was hoping that they would draw more inspiration from how Starfire was portrayed in the original Teen Titans cartoon than they did. That Starfire was, in Stephanie terms, delightful. This really was a missed opportunity for drawing in her fans from the cartoons. However, I enjoy this direction for the character far more than her Nu52 incarnation, and I'd like to see where they go from here.
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Post by tomoe on Jun 18, 2015 14:20:14 GMT -5
On a different topic, are we counting both Spider-Gwen and Captain America and the Mighty Avengers as victims of the Curse of Bob, or just Captain America and the Mighty Avengers?
And who do you think will be the next to fall?
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Post by BarefootRoot on Jun 18, 2015 15:03:36 GMT -5
On a different topic, are we counting both Spider-Gwen and Captain America and the Mighty Avengers as victims of the Curse of Bob, or just Captain America and the Mighty Avengers? And who do you think will be the next to fall? I believe spider gwen is just on break while secret wars shakes out, but I might be mistaken |
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Post by Huw on Jun 18, 2015 15:20:59 GMT -5
On a different topic, are we counting both Spider-Gwen and Captain America and the Mighty Avengers as victims of the Curse of Bob, or just Captain America and the Mighty Avengers? And who do you think will be the next to fall? I believe spider gwen is just on break while secret wars shakes out, but I might be mistaken Word on the wind is that Spider-Gwen will indeed return. Sam Wilson will carry on as Cap, it's anyone's guess as to whether a Mighty Avengers book will be part of it. I'd love to see it come back with Miles Morales as part of the team! |
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She is already a subscriber to the comic (she has her own Comixology account!) in addition to having the season pass for the show on VUDU. 
