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Post by wylietimes on Apr 9, 2015 9:35:11 GMT -5
I don't remember if this was covered on the podcast but it could be interesting as we've had these discussions in my lcs.
What is the one comic you want for your collection that is your holy grail?
For whatever reason what is the comic you want to get your hands on and why?
Mine would be Daredevil 7 with the first red costume by Wally Wood though I would also someday like issue 1.
For me it goes to what DD stands for and his story and that classic red look.
I have never collected Daredevil regularly but one of my earliest memories was an HBO special in the 80's or 90's before I even knew what Aids was. The story was based on the life of a boy who contracted Aids through a bad blood transfusion before it was properly screened and him and his friends loved DD.
After the truth came out, one of his friends in particular avoided him but eventually they reconciled and DD played a big part.
It always stuck with me and now with my own diagnosis of having inherited my mother's degenerative retinal disease I view the character as my personal symbol of my impending blindness.
I will be running all my future races wearing a Daredevil logo shirt as I work my way up to a marathon and raise funds for the Foundation Fighting Blindness.
Sorry for the longwindedness but I am passionate about the character and look forward to Netflix.
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Post by Bob Reyer on Apr 9, 2015 12:07:19 GMT -5
I don't remember if this was covered on the podcast but it could be interesting as we've had these discussions in my lcs. What is the one comic you want for your collection that is your holy grail? For whatever reason what is the comic you want to get your hands on and why? Mine would be Daredevil 7 with the first red costume by Wally Wood though I would also someday like issue 1. For me it goes to what DD stands for and his story and that classic red look. I have never collected Daredevil regularly but one of my earliest memories was an HBO special in the 80's or 90's before I even knew what Aids was. The story was based on the life of a boy who contracted Aids through a bad blood transfusion before it was properly screened and him and his friends loved DD. After the truth came out, one of his friends in particular avoided him but eventually they reconciled and DD played a big part. It always stuck with me and now with my own diagnosis of having inherited my mother's degenerative retinal disease I view the character as my personal symbol of my impending blindness. I will be running all my future races wearing a Daredevil logo shirt as I work my way up to a marathon and raise funds for the Foundation Fighting Blindness. Sorry for the longwindedness but I am passionate about the character and look forward to Netflix. Bobby, First off, let me extend the best wishes of everyone in the Talking Comics family, and let's hope that there'll be an answer soon for everyone afflicted. I'm sure that if anyone around these Forums has some resources to bring to bear for your situation, we'll all pitch in. As to your question, I'll check back later, as I'll have to ruminate a bit, just in case I'm forgetting something! |
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Post by wylietimes on Apr 9, 2015 12:39:55 GMT -5
Thanks Bob. Since it runs through my family I try to stay up to date. As of right now there are options that may slow down the process and may not.
The way RP(retinitis pigmentosa) works is that I have good central vision and will likely for a long time bit my night vision is gone and my peripherals are disappearing. At 60 my mother's field of vision resembles looking at life through the cardboard roll in a paper towel.
I do not spend time hoping they can fix my condition or reverse the damage that's been done. Instead I run to see of we can get this thing before my daughter might be affected.
Like Daredevil, I plan to keep fighting.
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Post by Bob Reyer on Apr 9, 2015 17:27:31 GMT -5
Thanks Bob. Since it runs through my family I try to stay up to date. As of right now there are options that may slow down the process and may not. The way RP(retinitis pigmentosa) works is that I have good central vision and will likely for a long time bit my night vision is gone and my peripherals are disappearing. At 60 my mother's field of vision resembles looking at life through the cardboard roll in a paper towel. I do not spend time hoping they can fix my condition or reverse the damage that's been done. Instead I run to see of we can get this thing before my daughter might be affected. Like Daredevil, I plan to keep fighting. Bobby, Your sentiments about your daughter shows that you're every bit the hero that Daredevil is! All the best to you and your family, Bob ps) I'm still ruminating, but it's closer to me posting! rrr |
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Post by wylietimes on Apr 10, 2015 14:41:53 GMT -5
Can't wait to see what you come up with Bob
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Post by Bob Reyer on Apr 11, 2015 16:48:07 GMT -5
Well, with some thought, there's going to come a long-winded answer, so sorry in advance! As to a comic book "Holy Grail", if money's no object, I would have to say something on the order of Action Comics #1, Detective Comics #27, or Marvel Comics #1, but that's too easy to throw out there. One un-attainable relic would be to have back my copy of Incredible Hulk #1 from 1962. My Dad brought it home for me on a Saturday that I was laid up in bed sick,and it was a favorite immediately, and one that I re-read quite often over the next few years, a habit which led to its disappearance!  My father had built a bookcase with latching doors for my comics, and this was on "his" side of our basement, along with his workshop. The other half had been finished into a rec room with living room furniture and a pool table, and which was used for small gatherings and visits by friends. My Mom was often after me to "put those comics back where they belong", with the usual coda "...or you won't see them again". One morning, I had spread a dozen-or-so comics over the "good side" of the room, leaving them there as I went to school. After classes, a flurry of pick-up baseball games, then dinner and some homework removed all thoughts of those comics. Going downstairs the next morning and seeing a spotless (and comics-free!) room, I ran to my bookcase, but, and including Incredible Hulk #1, whatever had been left behind was, as promised, gone! I complained (well, whined would be more accurate!), but my mother had given me plenty of warnings, which my father pointed out as he had me apologize, so it was on me. As the years went on, if my Mom ever said that I had too many comics around, I'd never hesitate to mention that they were all neatly boxed or shelved, and sometimes added for effect "Did you know that the Hulk book you threw away is worth about $100 now?"; her inevitable response: "I didn't throw it away, you did, by not taking care of it!" How do you top motherly logic like that, I ask you? All that said, in actuality, I do possess my personal Holy Grail, in that about 30 years ago I purchased (for $175--discounted for cash from $200) a very solid VG+ copy of Fantastic Four #1 at a New York City convention, and at that show, I was able to have Jack Kirby autograph it, and also have a great conversation with The King and his lovely wife Roz. Just a few years later, at our late, lamented I-Con at Stony Brook University, I had the good fortune to bring this book to Stan Lee, who upon seeing it grinned, saying "That's the first one, that's where everything started for us", and when he saw Jack Kirby's signature on the bottom of the first page, he exclaimed "Jack Kirby was 'The King', the best partner you could hope for, and it's great that his name can come first sometimes!". As he went to sign it, he hovered over the page a second, and then mused "Gee, I hope that I don't rip this", "I hope not either" my anxious reply. "Just kidding" said Stan the Man, and then he brought me to the side of his table, and proceeded to chat with me for what seemed like hours, (but was more likely ten minutes!), asking me which of the Marvel characters was my favorite (his was Ben Grimm), or what was my number one book. When I left, I was floating on air, and I don't think I stopped smiling for weeks, and quite frankly, whenever I re-tell this story, I get just a bit misty remembering my great good fortune in meeting my two comic book heroes, and being able to have a tangible token of the experience. Sorry for rambling, Bob |
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Post by sammiecassell on Apr 11, 2015 21:01:15 GMT -5
I like Bob have had the very good fortune of getting my holy grail. I'm a Thor guy, why that is will be included in a very near future column on the website, so my holy grail was Journey Into Mystery #83. I got one about 10'years ago for the tighty sum of $600, luckily the movies came and that value has gone up about 5 times.  After much contemplation, I think my holy grail now would be this golden age gem. The Little Rascals aka Our Gang was my favorite show as a child (40 years after the original movie airings). And I have the Walt Kelly collected books, but to have an actual Our Gang #1 would not only be the oldest book I own but one of the coolest.  |
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Post by wylietimes on Apr 12, 2015 10:29:51 GMT -5
Great stories guys. Bob I had a feelimg you would be the one who may have had the experience of locking yours down. Unfortunately Kirby had passed well before I was heavily into comics and knew the creators since I was born in 83. My wife however was on the elevator at NYCC with Stan Lee without knowing who he was until afterwards.
Sammie, awesome story. I didn't even know there was a Little Rascals comic. I too watched reruns growing up.
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Post by Bob Reyer on Apr 13, 2015 6:28:00 GMT -5
Great stories guys. Bob I had a feelimg you would be the one who may have had the experience of locking yours down. Unfortunately Kirby had passed well before I was heavily into comics and knew the creators since I was born in 83. My wife however was on the elevator at NYCC with Stan Lee without knowing who he was until afterwards. Sammie, awesome story. I didn't even know there was a Little Rascals comic. I too watched reruns growing up. Bobby, I was lucky enough to fill in the gaps in my Silver Age collection just before the prices exploded; that said, it was also just before they started reprinting all those same issues in beautiful Masterworks and Archive hardcovers, which if I had the chance to do things over again, would probably be the format I'd rather have them in, simply to combat the fear factor of accidentally destroying a rare or expensive book! At the next Special Edition show, I might take a flyer at buying an inexpensive Golden Age Wonder Woman or JSA (and perhaps a Weird Tales or Doc Savage pulp magazine), just to say I own one, as I do have a coverless Marvel Mystery laying about, so I want to play fair! One day, I'll again relate the story of how I bought a nice swath of early FFs (in Fine condition, no less!) from a local fish store! |
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Post by wylietimes on Apr 15, 2015 11:48:24 GMT -5
Despite all the buzz around the Netflix series, my holy frail might be in reach. This copy is pretty great too. Here's hoping.
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Post by jonathansoko on Apr 15, 2015 13:39:10 GMT -5
Well, with some thought, there's going to come a long-winded answer, so sorry in advance! As to a comic book "Holy Grail", if money's no object, I would have to say something on the order of Action Comics #1, Detective Comics #27, or Marvel Comics #1, but that's too easy to throw out there. One un-attainable relic would be to have back my copy of Incredible Hulk #1 from 1962. My Dad brought it home for me on a Saturday that I was laid up in bed sick,and it was a favorite immediately, and one that I re-read quite often over the next few years, a habit which led to its disappearance! My father had built a bookcase with latching doors for my comics, and this was on "his" side of our basement, along with his workshop. The other half had been finished into a rec room with living room furniture and a pool table, and which was used for small gatherings and visits by friends. My Mom was often after me to "put those comics back where they belong", with the usual coda "...or you won't see them again". One morning, I had spread a dozen-or-so comics over the "good side" of the room, leaving them there as I went to school. After classes, a flurry of pick-up baseball games, then dinner and some homework removed all thoughts of those comics. Going downstairs the next morning and seeing a spotless (and comics-free!) room, I ran to my bookcase, but, and including Incredible Hulk #1, whatever had been left behind was, as promised, gone! I complained (well, whined would be more accurate!), but my mother had given me plenty of warnings, which my father pointed out as he had me apologize, so it was on me. As the years went on, if my Mom ever said that I had too many comics around, I'd never hesitate to mention that they were all neatly boxed or shelved, and sometimes added for effect "Did you know that the Hulk book you threw away is worth about $100 now?"; her inevitable response: "I didn't throw it away, you did, by not taking care of it!" How do you top motherly logic like that, I ask you? All that said, in actuality, I do possess my personal Holy Grail, in that about 30 years ago I purchased (for $175--discounted for cash from $200) a very solid VG+ copy of Fantastic Four #1 at a New York City convention, and at that show, I was able to have Jack Kirby autograph it, and also have a great conversation with The King and his lovely wife Roz. Just a few years later, at our late, lamented I-Con at Stony Brook University, I had the good fortune to bring this book to Stan Lee, who upon seeing it grinned, saying "That's the first one, that's where everything started for us", and when he saw Jack Kirby's signature on the bottom of the first page, he exclaimed "Jack Kirby was 'The King', the best partner you could hope for, and it's great that his name can come first sometimes!". As he went to sign it, he hovered over the page a second, and then mused "Gee, I hope that I don't rip this", "I hope not either" my anxious reply. "Just kidding" said Stan the Man, and then he brought me to the side of his table, and proceeded to chat with me for what seemed like hours, (but was more likely ten minutes!), asking me which of the Marvel characters was my favorite (his was Ben Grimm), or what was my number one book. When I left, I was floating on air, and I don't think I stopped smiling for weeks, and quite frankly, whenever I re-tell this story, I get just a bit misty remembering my great good fortune in meeting my two comic book heroes, and being able to have a tangible token of the experience. Sorry for rambling, Bob I could listen to that story over and over all day |
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Post by wylietimes on Apr 15, 2015 20:37:58 GMT -5
What about you Jonathan? What's your grail?
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Post by jonathansoko on Apr 15, 2015 23:29:52 GMT -5
The first few comics I read as a kid (way before I became a weekly reader) I was given a stack of dc comics. In it was the first few wally west solo flash books, a few late 80s green arrow books and a few green lantern books from the same time. So I became very fond of those three characters, even to this day, they are my favorite. About a year ago i was at a tag sale in my city and i came across a few comics. In that stack was a green lantern/green arrow 76. I asked the guy how much. And he responded with ......"If you promise me that you will take care of this book, and never, ever sell it, it's yours for a dollar". That lead into a half hour long talk about our love for this kind of stuff, and why he decided to sell it to me. It will be forever my favorite book, that story is precious to me. And also because ga/gl 76 was a moving issue about racism. That panel where hal is confronted is my favorite panel of all time. It's amazing stuff. So green lantern 76 featuring green arrow will always be my grail. Not because it's worth a good amount of money. But because of what it means to me and why I love comics. And because of that man who sold it to me for 1$ and a promise to never sell it.  |
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Post by Bob Reyer on Apr 16, 2015 5:49:44 GMT -5
The first few comics I read as a kid (way before I became a weekly reader) I was given a stack of dc comics. In it was the first few wally west solo flash books, a few late 80s green arrow books and a few green lantern books from the same time. So I became very fond of those three characters, even to this day, they are my favorite. About a year ago i was at a tag sale in my city and i came across a few comics. In that stack was a green lantern/green arrow 76. I asked the guy how much. And he responded with ......"If you promise me that you will take care of this book, and never, ever sell it, it's yours for a dollar". That lead into a half hour long talk about our love for this kind of stuff, and why he decided to sell it to me. It will be forever my favorite book, that story is precious to me. And also because ga/gl 76 was a moving issue about racism. That panel where hal is confronted is my favorite panel of all time. It's amazing stuff. So green lantern 76 featuring green arrow will always be my grail. Not because it's worth a good amount of money. But because of what it means to me and why I love comics. And because of that man who sold it to me for 1$ and a promise to never sell it. Jonathan, What a fabulous story! It has a mythic quality; the mysterious stranger presenting the sacred artifact to the seeker of truth and wisdom! |
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Post by jonathansoko on Apr 16, 2015 13:42:12 GMT -5
The first few comics I read as a kid (way before I became a weekly reader) I was given a stack of dc comics. In it was the first few wally west solo flash books, a few late 80s green arrow books and a few green lantern books from the same time. So I became very fond of those three characters, even to this day, they are my favorite. About a year ago i was at a tag sale in my city and i came across a few comics. In that stack was a green lantern/green arrow 76. I asked the guy how much. And he responded with ......"If you promise me that you will take care of this book, and never, ever sell it, it's yours for a dollar". That lead into a half hour long talk about our love for this kind of stuff, and why he decided to sell it to me. It will be forever my favorite book, that story is precious to me. And also because ga/gl 76 was a moving issue about racism. That panel where hal is confronted is my favorite panel of all time. It's amazing stuff. So green lantern 76 featuring green arrow will always be my grail. Not because it's worth a good amount of money. But because of what it means to me and why I love comics. And because of that man who sold it to me for 1$ and a promise to never sell it. Jonathan, What a fabulous story! It has a mythic quality; the mysterious stranger presenting the sacred artifact to the seeker of truth and wisdom! I never thought about it that way. That makes it even more epic for me! Too bad he didn't promise me mystical powers that came along with ownership of the book, that would have been very much welcomed. |
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