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Post by Huw on Dec 31, 2014 11:33:56 GMT -5
Issue #166: Best Comics of 2014 Part Two (Follow this link to vote) Podcast StreamDownload Directly From iTunesFeedburner LinkTalking Comics Best Comics of 2014 deliberations continue with Best Single Issue, Best Graphic Novel, Best Story Arc, Best Mini Series, and Best New Series. Don’t forget to vote for the nominees you want to take home the award! Annnnnnnnnnd… we say it on the show, but just in case you missed it, the Talking Comics crew on Twitter are: Bobby: @bobbyshortle Stephanie: hellocookieSteve: @dead_anchoress And Bob’s email is bobreyer@talkingcomicbooks.com
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Post by IncredibleD on Dec 31, 2014 12:07:34 GMT -5
Sad to hear that Southern Bastards didn't get any love on this show, but other than that i wasn't all that bothered by the nominations, and i thought it was nice to hear that Ms. Marvel, Saga, Deadly Class and She-Hulk did get nominated. And i think i might check out some of the Graphic Novels that got talked about, if i can find them(i'm a Comixology guy, and most of them arent available on that)
Happy New Year, everyone!
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Post by toxicsooner on Dec 31, 2014 13:32:39 GMT -5
Just some random thought and opinions on the categories discussed in today's podcast.
Best Single Issue: I agree this may be the most difficult category in your best of list, but looking at the list I see a interesting trend. With the exception of Superman: Lois Lane#1, none of the issues were published before late July and 3 of them are after October. Maybe it’s just coincidence, but there was some good stuff that didn’t get it due so thought I would mention a couple: 1. Superior Spider-man 30 (April 2) or 31 (April 16): Otto gives up the mantle of spider-man and peter returns. 2. Saga 18 (January 29) or 24 (October 29): a conclusion to any arc in this book is worthy of a best single issue. 3. Southern Bastards #4 (September 3): holy shit that book just slaps you in the face!!!! 4. Black Science #6 (April 30): McKay’s gone, the kids are left alone, and where will they jump next.
Plus, I am totally shocked that there was no mention for Edge of Spider-Verse #2 (Spider-Gwen). I really thought that would be a given…LOL.
Best Graphic Novel: Not a whole lot to say about this category, other than Naja and Sunstone, Both of which are really good, I haven’t read a whole lot of graphic novels. But I will ask this can someone please explain what constitutes a graphic novel and why is it different than a mini-series?
Best Story Arc: I don’t read JLA or She-Hulk, so its hard for me to comment on those. Saga vol. 4 was excellent, definitely worthy of a spot. I liked the other 2 (Ms. Marvel & Wicked+Divine), but for me personally there were other things I would rather see on the list. First arc of Low or Deadly Class, Southern Bastards - Here Was A Man, Superior Spider-man – Goblin Nation.
Best Mini Series: Same as the Graphic Novel category, I don’t have a whole lot to offer here. So, because it impacts every book in the Marvel U and he’s one of my favorite characters, I toss Death of Wolverine in. The story was good, not great, but the art was awesome and enough to warrant consideration.
Best New Series: Glad to see Deadly Class in there and I knew Ms. Marvel would be there. I’m somewhat surprised by the love for Gotham Academy, I don’t read any DC right now, but I may have to check this out. I know nothing about Sensation Comics and The Wicked + The Divine is solid. Really wish I would have seen some love for Lazarus and Inhumans, both have been really good.
Hope everyone has a safe and wonderful New Years (a.k.a. amateur drunk night)
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Post by mknight on Dec 31, 2014 15:30:32 GMT -5
I'm surprised there's no Spider-Gwen as well. I kept waiting for someone to bring it up. I've never seen one issue of a book cause so much buzz that an ongoing series was a foregone conclusion by the time you got to the end of the story. It was fantastic. It took the Spider-Man origin which we know so well at this point and made it feel fresh and new. It's rare that I immediately re-read a book but it was so good I couldn't put it down! Just some random thought and opinions on the categories discussed in today's podcast. Best Single Issue:I agree this may be the most difficult category in your best of list, but looking at the list I see a interesting trend. With the exception of Superman: Lois Lane#1, none of the issues were published before late July and 3 of them are after October. Maybe it’s just coincidence, but there was some good stuff that didn’t get it due so thought I would mention a couple: 1. Superior Spider-man 30 (April 2) or 31 (April 16): Otto gives up the mantle of spider-man and peter returns. 2. Saga 18 (January 29) or 24 (October 29): a conclusion to any arc in this book is worthy of a best single issue. 3. Southern Bastards #4 (September 3): holy shit that book just slaps you in the face!!!! 4. Black Science #6 (April 30): McKay’s gone, the kids are left alone, and where will they jump next. Plus, I am totally shocked that there was no mention for Edge of Spider-Verse #2 (Spider-Gwen). I really thought that would be a given…LOL. Best Graphic Novel:Not a whole lot to say about this category, other than Naja and Sunstone, Both of which are really good, I haven’t read a whole lot of graphic novels. But I will ask this can someone please explain what constitutes a graphic novel and why is it different than a mini-series? Best Story Arc:I don’t read JLA or She-Hulk, so its hard for me to comment on those. Saga vol. 4 was excellent, definitely worthy of a spot. I liked the other 2 (Ms. Marvel & Wicked+Divine), but for me personally there were other things I would rather see on the list. First arc of Low or Deadly Class, Southern Bastards - Here Was A Man, Superior Spider-man – Goblin Nation. Best Mini Series:Same as the Graphic Novel category, I don’t have a whole lot to offer here. So, because it impacts every book in the Marvel U and he’s one of my favorite characters, I toss Death of Wolverine in. The story was good, not great, but the art was awesome and enough to warrant consideration. Best New Series:Glad to see Deadly Class in there and I knew Ms. Marvel would be there. I’m somewhat surprised by the love for Gotham Academy, I don’t read any DC right now, but I may have to check this out. I know nothing about Sensation Comics and The Wicked + The Divine is solid. Really wish I would have seen some love for Lazarus and Inhumans, both have been really good. Hope everyone has a safe and wonderful New Years (a.k.a. amateur drunk night)
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Post by henrythemorerecent on Jan 1, 2015 15:43:39 GMT -5
All this talk of Trillium just reminded me of something (and I'm not sure if this was ever covered in any of the past shows because its not a huge detail), but I was reading an interview with Jeff Lemire and he said that the make-up of Trillium started with a pitch he made DC for an Adam Strange story. Funnily enough that kind of makes me like Trillium less because Adam Strange is one of my favourite characters and I would have loved to have seen where he would have taken that character instead of being a side character in JLU.
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Post by rgsc on Jan 1, 2015 19:40:59 GMT -5
Just some random thought and opinions on the categories discussed in today's podcast. Best Single Issue:... 3. Southern Bastards #4 (September 3): holy shit that book just slaps you in the face!!!!... This issue, holy crap, this issue. I have read all the nominated issues in the category and can't really argue with the choices but, man, this one has stayed with me. Oh, and I thought I'd chime in to say deadanchoress - I am fully in agreement with you about Battling Boy. I just could not get on board with it. I really was surprised how much I disliked it given how critically acclaimed it was. When reading it I thought to myself "you know who I really wish they'd get into more? Aurora." So I was really happy to hear about "The Rise of..." I enjoyed that a great deal more than BB.
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Post by deadanchoress on Jan 2, 2015 21:07:27 GMT -5
Just some random thought and opinions on the categories discussed in today's podcast. Best Single Issue:... 3. Southern Bastards #4 (September 3): holy shit that book just slaps you in the face!!!!... This issue, holy crap, this issue. I have read all the nominated issues in the category and can't really argue with the choices but, man, this one has stayed with me. Oh, and I thought I'd chime in to say deadanchoress - I am fully in agreement with you about Battling Boy. I just could not get on board with it. I really was surprised how much I disliked it given how critically acclaimed it was. When reading it I thought to myself "you know who I really wish they'd get into more? Aurora." So I was really happy to hear about "The Rise of..." I enjoyed that a great deal more than BB. Heh, thanks toxicsooner. It's a shame that the book doesn't resonate with me as much as it does for others, but that's okay. There's books out there for everyone after all, and hey, we can't love everything we read, right? I'd be willing to give Aurora a read for sure, though. From what I've heard it's got a lot to offer.
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Post by john1974 on Jan 3, 2015 15:34:35 GMT -5
Didn't really know where to post this but I wanted to drop in and say I love the podcast. I found it about a week ago looking for intelligent conversation about comics. I have found a lot of podcasts that discuss movies and TV shows but nothing like what this podcast is about, which is the comics themselves. Keep up the great work.
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Post by toxicsooner on Jan 3, 2015 16:00:31 GMT -5
This issue, holy crap, this issue. I have read all the nominated issues in the category and can't really argue with the choices but, man, this one has stayed with me. Oh, and I thought I'd chime in to say deadanchoress - I am fully in agreement with you about Battling Boy. I just could not get on board with it. I really was surprised how much I disliked it given how critically acclaimed it was. When reading it I thought to myself "you know who I really wish they'd get into more? Aurora." So I was really happy to hear about "The Rise of..." I enjoyed that a great deal more than BB. Heh, thanks toxicsooner. It's a shame that the book doesn't resonate with me as much as it does for others, but that's okay. There's books out there for everyone after all, and hey, we can't love everything we read, right? I'd be willing to give Aurora a read for sure, though. From what I've heard it's got a lot to offer. Completely agree, to each his own... I've said it before and I'll say it again, one of my favorite things about this forum and podcast is the diversity. When I first started listening I was a Marvel only guy, since then I have expanded into all types of comics and even have my wife reading a couple of titles (Saga, Nailbiters, and Naja). Joining the forum has only expanded my ideas. In the last 2 months between the podcast and forum, I have picked up several new titles, including Wicked+Divine, Southern Bastards, Death Vigil and JL8... I read S.B. as a trade like I do a lot with the Image/Boom titles (Depending on the story, I just think they read better that way) and man I picked that up and it just clicked. From the the South/Southwest so the cultural tone slapped me back to my youth. Add the fact that I enjoy Aaron as a writer and the twist in #4 and it's a perfect storm for me.
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Post by Bob Reyer on Jan 4, 2015 0:16:29 GMT -5
Didn't really know where to post this but I wanted to drop in and say I love the podcast. I found it about a week ago looking for intelligent conversation about comics. I have found a lot of podcasts that discuss movies and TV shows but nothing like what this podcast is about, which is the comics themselves. Keep up the great work. John, Welcome to the Forum! We might ramble into all sorts of things, but we do end up back chatting up comic books, no matter the era, no matter the sales figures! Glad you're enjoying it so far, and thanks for the kind words!
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Post by ringoseven on Jan 5, 2015 4:34:49 GMT -5
I'm really surprised that no one has gone to bat for Pax Americana. I get why you might not want to sit down and take the time it would take to digest all of this story. Even so, despite the fact that this book incredibly dense, this book delivers on several different levels. From the way the story is told to the simple panel layouts, this book simply amazes. Plus you get Ted Kord back! Come on! Who didn't love his version of Captain Atom. I can't say enough about this book.
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Post by Bob Reyer on Jan 5, 2015 7:59:18 GMT -5
I'm really surprised that no one has gone to bat for Pax Americana. I get why you might not want to sit down and take the time it would take to digest all of this story. Even so, despite the fact that this book incredibly dense, this book delivers on several different levels. From the way the story is told to the simple panel layouts, this book simply amazes. Plus you get Ted Kord back! Come on! Who didn't love his version of Captain Atom. I can't say enough about this book. Scott, First off, let me welcome you to our Forum! Second, if Bobby and I didn't seem to go overboard talking about Pax Americana on our nominations show, it's because it was a lock to make it, and we didn't have to "make the case"; the big debates are coming soon!
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Post by tundra on Jan 5, 2015 8:38:07 GMT -5
I'm really surprised that no one has gone to bat for Pax Americana. I get why you might not want to sit down and take the time it would take to digest all of this story. Even so, despite the fact that this book incredibly dense, this book delivers on several different levels. From the way the story is told to the simple panel layouts, this book simply amazes. Plus you get Ted Kord back! Come on! Who didn't love his version of Captain Atom. I can't say enough about this book. I see Bob has already replied to you actual question, but the nomination of both Pax Americana and Leaving Megalopolis during this show brought up another question in my mind - Bobby's use quite frequent of the word 'deconstructionist' to describe comics. As far as I understand it (and I'm certainly not assuming that I'm right) Pax Americana is one of the best pieces of deconstructionist writing in superhero comics I've seen in years, but wasn't identified as such. On the other hand, Leaving Megalopolis was highlighted as an enjoyable deconstructionist comic book, where I only saw a fairly straightforward take on the "heroes are controlled by and evil force and do bad things" trope that has been around for years albeit with the intensity turned up to 11 and told from the POV of civilian bystanders (in the style of Astro City or Kingdom Come). Not a criticism of the book, which I thought was entertaining, but it didn't seem to in any way be breaking the story, characters or genre down to their component parts and then reassembling them to give a fresh perspective, which is what I think of as a deconstructionist story. Just curious about what you mean by it, really!
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Post by wylietimes on Jan 5, 2015 22:41:29 GMT -5
For best single issue I would go with Grayson 5. Grayson takes a long walk through the desert to try and save a newborn. Powerful stuff and Tom King is really coming into his own on the book between this and the Future's End issue.
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Post by skylynx on Jan 6, 2015 17:52:43 GMT -5
I've tried really hard this year to stick to the choices rather than choose 'other', but can't do anything but give Transformers Vs G.I.Joe best new series (and best issue for no.2). I'm really glad it's getting such a good reaction and appearing on loads of 'best of' lists on the web. It's not so much a breath but a blast of fresh air. In a totally insane/genius kind of way.
Starlight gets my vote for best mini series (even though I've only read up to issue 3). It's so well written and a very engaging read.
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