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Post by deadanchoress on Jan 12, 2014 13:52:40 GMT -5
deadanchoress I suppose I need to check out Captain Marvel at some point, you guys are really lovin' on that book hehe. She's hands down my favorite Marvel super hero at the moment. Mark my words, within the right hands you are going to see her rise in popularity and importance as the years march on. Her role in Hickman's Avengers and the Infinity event is a clear indication of that. She was right alongside Captain America the whole way: giving orders, and carrying out the most crucial aspects of whichever mission she was a part of. A part of me fears what will happen to her should Kelly Sue choose to move on from the character in times to come, but with any luck whomever takes over will have a passion for keeping her moving in the right direction. She's a character to watch, that's for damn sure. I can't recommend that you check her out enough. She's funny, powerful, intimidating, and inspiring. What more could you want for in a hero?
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Post by arcticbeast on Jan 13, 2014 22:54:29 GMT -5
Super heroes are the whole point of comics to me. It's all I read in the way of comics.
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Post by wjohnson22 on Jan 13, 2014 23:17:50 GMT -5
I read a mixture of super hero and other kinds of titles. With the exception of Batman, most super hero books I read are largely due to the writer and/or artist on the book. I've been amazed and surprised at how certain writers have made me care about superheros I initially had no interest in reading, such as Jeff Lemire's take on Buddy Baker or Rick Remender on Captain America. For me the draw is less the action (although I still love a good fight scene) and more the pathos generated from witnessing how superheros struggle to do the right thing and maintain relationships given the responsibility of the job.
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Post by xtjmac510x on Jan 21, 2014 23:45:13 GMT -5
For me its split. I read about half superhero, half non-superhero. It really comes down to whether or not the story is good for me.
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Post by othersummersbrother on Jan 27, 2014 2:43:09 GMT -5
A good story is a good story I think this nails it. As long as the art is reasonable too, of course. That said, I have sentimental attachment to certain titles like the X-Men. But if the story is flat, it's dropped. Writers will always find new-ish ways to tell super hero stories. Even regularly used tropes can be compelling, if written well. Like the man said, a good story is a good story.
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Post by joroak on Jan 27, 2014 12:45:38 GMT -5
Super heroes are the whole point of comics to me. It's all I read in the way of comics. While I agree that it's the original point of comics, I do hope you one day decide to dive Into some of the other stuff. To me it doesn't take away from the medium, it only adds to it.
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Post by Kal on Jan 30, 2014 20:53:13 GMT -5
now this is an interesting subject. I can understand why people don't like superheroes. They wear strange costumes and they're god like which makes them kinda hard to relate to, but for some reason I love them. Especially the deconstructed stories by Grant Morrison and Alan Moore, among others. So what is it? am I reliving my childhood spent parked in front of the TV Saturday mornings watching Spiderman, xmen, and Batman. Is it some vicarious thrill of wishing I had that kind of power. There's a plethora of psycho analytic reasons people can come with. I'm sure many of you have heard them. While I'm not certain why I like them I'd like to think it's more than some psycho babble. So for those who like superheroes what is it that's caused them to dominate the comic book industry, and what's your reasons for your own obsession for the caped crusaders.
And let's skip the whole idea of someone going out and deciding to fight evil. For one, we have real life people who dress in costumes and go on nightly patrols in search of villains, Watch the documentary superheroes if you wanna see what that looks like, it's somewhat depressing, and we actually have real life heroes; fireman, police, military, all people who risk their lives in service for others.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2014 16:40:48 GMT -5
Agreed on the last two. Regardless of genre, style or setting its the characters and story that come first. Also I personally feel the sometimes the superhero is never the focus anyway. For example I love most Batman comics but I've found more and more its because of th supporting cast of characters that I really start to feel for. But again that is only when good writing comes into play. I personally never would have picked up a Captain America comic. I have preconceptions about what it would be and being Australian why would I want to read it anyway. But then look at Ed Brubakers run on it. He turned a guy wearing a flag into a believable and relatable. It doesn't bother me that he has a bland name like Steve Rogers, he's the tall blonde haired blue eyed "American dream" from back in the day. Honestly if you can't get past that a characters name rhymes and he may come back from the dead or regenerates you're focusing on the wrong aspect. A good writer can make any character believeable and relateable. If you don't like Wolverine and his violence and healing factor, read Old Man Logan and tell me that isn't a great story about a man trying to provide for his family. Or what about Jessica Jones? A name like that and her ridiculous origin story and look what Bendis did with her in Alias. Amazing. Or Robin, campy sidekick to Batman. Chuck Dixon's run deals with things real teenagers go through. Things like abusive parents, teenage pregnancy. The reason we have superhero comics is to reflect our day to day lives in a fantastical way in order to help us escape from our day to day lives while at the same time dealing with it. Yes Superman is an alien with godlike powers. But he's also adopted or an orphan altoether depending on which universe, the ultimate immigrant. People say the X-Men deal more with discrimination But look at what the new 52 is doing now; The people in that universe hate Wonder Woman and Superman just because they are from other worlds and have different abilities. Walking Dead and Sage may not be superheroes but they are set in unreal environments, Saga especially. I can relate to Batman about as well as I can relate to a horned husband travelling on a rocket tree escaping robot headed princes and "lying cats". Yet its the story and characters that make us all love them so much.
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Post by Kal on Feb 6, 2014 21:46:05 GMT -5
Agreed on the last two. Regardless of genre, style or setting its the characters and story that come first. Also I personally feel the sometimes the superhero is never the focus anyway. For example I love most Batman comics but I've found more and more its because of th supporting cast of characters that I really start to feel for. But again that is only when good writing comes into play. I personally never would have picked up a Captain America comic. I have preconceptions about what it would be and being Australian why would I want to read it anyway. But then look at Ed Brubakers run on it. He turned a guy wearing a flag into a believable and relatable. It doesn't bother me that he has a bland name like Steve Rogers, he's the tall blonde haired blue eyed "American dream" from back in the day. Honestly if you can't get past that a characters name rhymes and he may come back from the dead or regenerates you're focusing on the wrong aspect. A good writer can make any character believeable and relateable. If you don't like Wolverine and his violence and healing factor, read Old Man Logan and tell me that isn't a great story about a man trying to provide for his family. Or what about Jessica Jones? A name like that and her ridiculous origin story and look what Bendis did with her in Alias. Amazing. Or Robin, campy sidekick to Batman. Chuck Dixon's run deals with things real teenagers go through. Things like abusive parents, teenage pregnancy. The reason we have superhero comics is to reflect our day to day lives in a fantastical way in order to help us escape from our day to day lives while at the same time dealing with it. Yes Superman is an alien with godlike powers. But he's also adopted or an orphan altoether depending on which universe, the ultimate immigrant. People say the X-Men deal more with discrimination But look at what the new 52 is doing now; The people in that universe hate Wonder Woman and Superman just because they are from other worlds and have different abilities. Walking Dead and Sage may not be superheroes but they are set in unreal environments, Saga especially. I can relate to Batman about as well as I can relate to a horned husband travelling on a rocket tree escaping robot headed princes and "lying cats". Yet its the story and characters that make us all love them so much. well said. I think that's what a good writer does in this day and age of superheroes. Take someone with super human powers and make them relatable to the average reader.
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Post by JediHunter66 on Feb 6, 2014 21:49:41 GMT -5
I love my Super Hero books, but I also really enjoy stuff like Revival, Thief of Theives, Walking Dead, Saga, etc. I'd say my pull list is probably about 60% Super Hero 40% non.
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Post by xtjmac510x on Feb 11, 2014 19:59:26 GMT -5
I've also started to learn that it really depends on what I'm in the mood for. Sometimes you're in the mood for a bombastic out of this world hero story and sometimes you want to read East of West
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