akaboali
Fearless Defender
“I'd rather take coffee than compliments just now.” ― Louisa May Alcott
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Post by akaboali on Jan 13, 2014 2:55:02 GMT -5
I see what you did there Image, well played!  |
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Post by CaptainSuperior on Jan 13, 2014 10:55:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure why they didn't talk much about this upcoming series, but Jason Aaron is going to be doing a creator owned called Southern Bastards which looks pretty awesome. Here is a link to some more info on it. www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=46401 I think they didn't talk about it a lot cause they were giving more screen time to brand new announcements, and Southern Bastards was one that was announced last year, but they did have a little information on ODY-C by Fraction so I don't have a clue. Ahhh, that would explain it then, I wasn't aware that this series was announced last year. Wish Aaron would get on it! |
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Post by drocat on Jan 13, 2014 11:52:32 GMT -5
I see what you did there Image, well played! This is perfect. Bravo. |
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Post by bookend57 on Jan 16, 2014 1:06:47 GMT -5
The Brubaker news is what really caught my eye. Looks like we'll be getting some high quality images books for at least the next five years.
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Post by Almeida77 on Jan 16, 2014 17:21:09 GMT -5
Anybody listen to Podcorn this week? It's the weekly podcast from Brandon Montclare & Amy Reeder the creators of Rocket Girl, really good. They had an interesting perspective on the Image Expo in that they seemed to have some gripe with there being like 15 - 20 people on stage at the end who were pretty much White Male Writers. Diversity in "minority" and female creators is a whole other topic but do you guys agree with them that the industry right now is all about or at least glorifies writers more than artists. That some companies might be promoting books this way even if they don't mean to.
How many panels or interviews have you seen with both sides of the creative team (minus inkers & colourists but one group at a time eh) have been there as the face of the project? Understandably it may be their choice not to be there, but Montclare said he was uncomfortable being at a few panels and having Amy's work displayed up there and he had to talk about it. HE felt as though what was being presented in the room gave the impression that HE was the one who had made all of this, that this would be the view of the casual or outside viewer.
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Post by wjohnson22 on Jan 17, 2014 0:36:07 GMT -5
Anybody listen to Podcorn this week? It's the weekly podcast from Brandon Montclare & Amy Reeder the creators of Rocket Girl, really good. They had an interesting perspective on the Image Expo in that they seemed to have some gripe with there being like 15 - 20 people on stage at the end who were pretty much White Male Writers. Diversity in "minority" and female creators is a whole other topic but do you guys agree with them that the industry right now is all about or at least glorifies writers more than artists. That some companies might be promoting books this way even if they don't mean to. How many panels or interviews have you seen with both sides of the creative team (minus inkers & colourists but one group at a time eh) have been there as the face of the project? Understandably it may be their choice not to be there, but Montclare said he was uncomfortable being at a few panels and having Amy's work displayed up there and he had to talk about it. HE felt as though what was being presented in the room gave the impression that HE was the one who had made all of this, that this would be the view of the casual or outside viewer. I haven't listened to this episode yet, but it sounds like they bring up some important issues. There is so much to unpack regarding diversity in comics on multiple levels, from creators to characters. In terms of the creator-owned movement, and the seeming focus on writers over artists at times, I want to look at which creator-owned books are actually owned by just the writer and have a hired artist come on board (like Ten Grand and others), and which books are co-owned by the writer and artist. I wonder if those books that are co-owned are more equally promoted between the writer and artist? I have no insider knowledge of the comic book industry, but I imagine many of the more respected writers got to that place in part because they regularly recognize and acknowledge the art and artists that make the books possible. |
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Post by Almeida77 on Jan 17, 2014 13:52:09 GMT -5
In my opinion, even if the artist is "work hire" they've still created something and their contribution is at the very least 50% of the final product (assuming they do all the art inks and colours included) so I don;t really think anybody is work for hire. Just because somebody may own the idea and have created it its absolutely a partnership.
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Post by wjohnson22 on Jan 17, 2014 14:08:21 GMT -5
In my opinion, even if the artist is "work hire" they've still created something and their contribution is at the very least 50% of the final product (assuming they do all the art inks and colours included) so I don;t really think anybody is work for hire. Just because somebody may own the idea and have created it its absolutely a partnership. Well said. I didn't mean to use "work for hire" to demean an artist's contribution, but just to describe/differentiate who "owns" the intellectual property. I totally agree that we have to look at the writer/artist relationship as a total partnership. With comics obviously being such a visual medium, and many artists describing how much they add/infer to a writer's script, it is even more important that we make sure artists get their due, both in recognition and pay. On a side note, Charles Soule, who moonlights as a lawyer in addition to his work as a comic book writer, has a really interesting series of blog posts about the kinds of contracts that comic book creators enter into. I think it speaks to the difficulty and challenge of whether legal agreements can truly capture who contributes what to a creative work. charlessoule.wordpress.com/category/agree-to-agree/ |
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Post by Almeida77 on Jan 17, 2014 14:11:10 GMT -5
Charles Soule is ridiculous lol Stop being so good dammit!
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Post by drocat on Jan 17, 2014 14:52:06 GMT -5
Anybody listen to Podcorn this week? It's the weekly podcast from Brandon Montclare & Amy Reeder the creators of Rocket Girl, really good. They had an interesting perspective on the Image Expo in that they seemed to have some gripe with there being like 15 - 20 people on stage at the end who were pretty much White Male Writers. Diversity in "minority" and female creators is a whole other topic but do you guys agree with them that the industry right now is all about or at least glorifies writers more than artists. That some companies might be promoting books this way even if they don't mean to. How many panels or interviews have you seen with both sides of the creative team (minus inkers & colourists but one group at a time eh) have been there as the face of the project? Understandably it may be their choice not to be there, but Montclare said he was uncomfortable being at a few panels and having Amy's work displayed up there and he had to talk about it. HE felt as though what was being presented in the room gave the impression that HE was the one who had made all of this, that this would be the view of the casual or outside viewer. It does seem strange to me. Recently in comics there has been much more equal representation of women and minorities, so I would assume that more diversity amongst artists would be present. Apart from Kelly Sue (correct me if I'm wrong) everyone there was white male? It seems to me that they were using Deconnick as their token woman producer. If the industry really wants to show that it's becoming more equal and diverse they should have more women and minorities up there to promote and represent their work. They shouldn't keep treating their male white writers as rockstars. As far as the artist/writer relationship goes... it's kind of like the guitar player/bass player mentality that bands have. Everyone cares more about the guitar player, but they would be nothing without the bass player. This is kind of how I feel within the world of comics. I really think that people should start paying attention to the artist more. Especially Image. What would Saga be without Fiona Staples? Nothing. Artist changes are much more jarring, but if the writer changed, you wouldn't even really notice. Plus- drawing the books seems a hell of a lot harder than writing. |
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Post by gingersaremutantstoo on Jan 17, 2014 23:29:33 GMT -5
I'm so stoked for Nailbitter and Wytches.
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Post by drocat on Jan 19, 2014 1:01:29 GMT -5
I'm so stoked for Nailbitter and Wytches. Nailbiter sounds like it's all sorts of F^&$*#& up. Seriously though. |
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Post by JediHunter66 on Jan 21, 2014 0:19:30 GMT -5
Snyder + Jock and Burnham + Morrison = shut up and take all of my money. I look forward to those two books the most.
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Post by gingersaremutantstoo on Jan 21, 2014 5:48:29 GMT -5
I'm so stoked for Nailbitter and Wytches. Nailbiter sounds like it's all sorts of F^&$*#& up. Seriously though. Yes they do. It's nice to see a publisher willing to let assist pretty much have free range. I can't wait to see the image titles this year. |
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Post by wjohnson22 on Jan 21, 2014 12:31:34 GMT -5
If you haven't read it, check out this interview at IGN with Scott Snyder: www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/17/scott-snyder-talks-wytches-batman-superman-and-working-outHe says some interesting things about why he and Jock decided to go to Image with Wytches instead of Vertigo. He described working at DC/Vertigo as his city home, and taking this title to Image as his country house, which I thought was a smart way to describe it. Combine this with the fact that Snyder and Capullo are signed on to do Batman past issue 50, it looks like we'll be getting a lot of great stories from Snyder going forward. |
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