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Post by scouts1998 on Feb 28, 2014 5:21:26 GMT -5
So what did you think of this issue?
The American Government seems interesting.
Leeward is bad ass.
And how about the ending, do you think Lee Archer is alive?
This issue definitely my favourite last page of the week (closely followed by Hawkeye)
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Post by lennyreid on Mar 21, 2014 11:50:13 GMT -5
I loved the map. Really great world-building and seamless given how good the first 5 issues were and the potentially jarring scene change.
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Post by Tony on Jun 5, 2014 23:29:27 GMT -5
Good lord, this fucking book. How I wish it were 20+ issues instead of 10.
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Post by scouts1998 on Jun 7, 2014 5:09:23 GMT -5
Good lord, this fucking book. How I wish it were 20+ issues instead of 10. I wish it went for 50+ issues I am so hoping for a spin-off book in the future |
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Post by CaptainSuperior on Jun 16, 2014 15:00:23 GMT -5
The Wake hardcover has finally been announced for Nov.5th!
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Post by thephantomwelshman on Jul 30, 2014 6:27:48 GMT -5
well, what an ending that was. Incredible series from start to finish.
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Post by dceggleston on Nov 11, 2014 12:41:09 GMT -5
Bought the hardcover based on reviews and high praise, and read it over the weekend. Fantastic story.
And, man, the art! Sean Gordon Murphy is as good as Jock when it comes to atmosphere, but loses nothing with the casual, human moment scenes.
I was a little confused over certain parts of exposition that explained the history of the relationship between the mers and the humans, but just internally intoned 'Comics, everyone!' and felt a little better.
Edit:
Ok, ok, so since this is a spoiler thread, here are my questions. Please help me sleep at night by answering them.
So evolution on Earth was enacted by a 'seed' from...Mars? Ok, fine.
On Earth, this evolution resulted in two apex strains: homosapiens and the mers (we prefer to be called mersapiens, thank you very much).
Once a certain apex level is achieved some...aliens?...come down to eliminate the top rung evolution (which seems a little self defeating, doesn't it?)
The strain resulting in cavemen ended, but the mers, who had adapted to water, survived the genocide.
So...if homo sapiens was eliminated, what does that make the current day people? Alien ancestors who forgot their origin via crying? And the mers were only trying to make us remember/murder us into remembering?
The headaches are returning! Must cry...to...forget...*grabs copy of Old Yeller*
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Post by Tony on Nov 11, 2014 17:55:39 GMT -5
Ok, ok, so since this is a spoiler thread, here are my questions. Please help me sleep at night by answering them. So evolution on Earth was enacted by a 'seed' from...Mars? Ok, fine. On Earth, this evolution resulted in two apex strains: homosapiens and the mers (we prefer to be called mersapiens, thank you very much). Once a certain apex level is achieved some...aliens?...come down to eliminate the top rung evolution (which seems a little self defeating, doesn't it?) The strain resulting in cavemen ended, but the mers, who had adapted to water, survived the genocide. So...if homo sapiens was eliminated, what does that make the current day people? Alien ancestors who forgot their origin via crying? And the mers were only trying to make us remember/murder us into remembering? The headaches are returning! Must cry...to...forget...*grabs copy of Old Yeller* it's been a couple of months since I read the end, but this is how I reckon it's supposed to be: Space-faring race of beings (humans) send ships many millennia ago to various planets in the galaxy/universe to long-term colonize them, not from Mars I don't think, but maybe they already tried and failed on Mars? I don't remember ever getting an origin point for where they/we came from. Anyway, the ship lands here on Earth, and the dominant life here is the Mers. There are, at that time, no humans here; the humans all come from the ship. These humans, our ancestors, are genetically designed to sort of devolve a bit (this is where we get those cavemen) and forget where they came from (through the tears, yeah?, which trigger a genetically-designed chemical effect), so that they can then re-evolve/develop/adapt properly to whatever conditions the planet they've landed on presents to them. Eventually there's a war between the ascendant humans and the mers, and the humans win and proceed to dominate the planet henceforth, and the mers disappear back into the sea. Many thousands of years pass, and we're ruining the planet and the oceans and such, so the mers make a move to take it back from us while seeking out those rare people who have a particular genetic memory situation going on which would allow them to remember our origin and/or survive being taken down to the ship and whatnot. At the end of the story, the mers have taken back the planet completely, and our heroes have been brought down to the ship (this is the same ship that we came in all those years ago), and remembered/been-told the story, and using the very last bit of tech/energy from the ancient technology that we brought with us (the device in the cave) our heroes and whoever else has been brought down to the ship launch that ship back up into space, leaving the planet and the mers (the earth's rightful dominant lifeform) behind and in charge. We're the aliens; that's more or less what I got from it. I could be wrong on a couple of the particulars; like I said, it's been a few months. There were also overarching themes that seemed to talk about the human condition, and love, and hope, and our drive to dominate/Manifest Destiny, and our wonder, and our adaptability, and of course about our failed relationship with our roots/the earth/nature. |
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Post by dceggleston on Nov 12, 2014 11:17:02 GMT -5
Ok, ok, so since this is a spoiler thread, here are my questions. Please help me sleep at night by answering them. So evolution on Earth was enacted by a 'seed' from...Mars? Ok, fine. On Earth, this evolution resulted in two apex strains: homosapiens and the mers (we prefer to be called mersapiens, thank you very much). Once a certain apex level is achieved some...aliens?...come down to eliminate the top rung evolution (which seems a little self defeating, doesn't it?) The strain resulting in cavemen ended, but the mers, who had adapted to water, survived the genocide. So...if homo sapiens was eliminated, what does that make the current day people? Alien ancestors who forgot their origin via crying? And the mers were only trying to make us remember/murder us into remembering? The headaches are returning! Must cry...to...forget...*grabs copy of Old Yeller* it's been a couple of months since I read the end, but this is how I reckon it's supposed to be: Space-faring race of beings (humans) send ships many millennia ago to various planets in the galaxy/universe to long-term colonize them, not from Mars I don't think, but maybe they already tried and failed on Mars? I don't remember ever getting an origin point for where they/we came from. Anyway, the ship lands here on Earth, and the dominant life here is the Mers. There are, at that time, no humans here; the humans all come from the ship. These humans, our ancestors, are genetically designed to sort of devolve a bit (this is where we get those cavemen) and forget where they came from (through the tears, yeah?, which trigger a genetically-designed chemical effect), so that they can then re-evolve/develop/adapt properly to whatever conditions the planet they've landed on presents to them. Eventually there's a war between the ascendant humans and the mers, and the humans win and proceed to dominate the planet henceforth, and the mers disappear back into the sea. Many thousands of years pass, and we're ruining the planet and the oceans and such, so the mers make a move to take it back from us while seeking out those rare people who have a particular genetic memory situation going on which would allow them to remember our origin and/or survive being taken down to the ship and whatnot. At the end of the story, the mers have taken back the planet completely, and our heroes have been brought down to the ship (this is the same ship that we came in all those years ago), and remembered/been-told the story, and using the very last bit of tech/energy from the ancient technology that we brought with us (the device in the cave) our heroes and whoever else has been brought down to the ship launch that ship back up into space, leaving the planet and the mers (the earth's rightful dominant lifeform) behind and in charge. We're the aliens; that's more or less what I got from it. I could be wrong on a couple of the particulars; like I said, it's been a few months. There were also overarching themes that seemed to talk about the human condition, and love, and hope, and our drive to dominate/Manifest Destiny, and our wonder, and our adaptability, and of course about our failed relationship with our roots/the earth/nature. Ah, ok, thank you very much! This explains all those tiny details that had escaped me. I did miss the point where the mers were the exclusive dominant species and humans had come directly from the ship instead of being evolved through the 'Seed' alongside the mers. Ok, this makes sense (I mean, comic book sense, which is the best kind of sense). Thanks again! |
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Post by Tony on Nov 12, 2014 15:35:51 GMT -5
Ah, ok, thank you very much! This explains all those tiny details that had escaped me. I did miss the point where the mers were the exclusive dominant species and humans had come directly from the ship instead of being evolved through the 'Seed' alongside the mers. Ok, this makes sense (I mean, comic book sense, which is the best kind of sense). Thanks again! Of course; no problem! I mean, I think that's what it was saying; I certainly could be wrong about one or three things.  But I think the caveman who was walled-off into the cave with the eye-gadget, I think the idea there was that he was the last human to still vaguely remember what was actually going on, and he was resisting the "forgetting", and he and his cave and the tiny bit of tech/energy that she found there all those millennia later seemed to be the key to the whole thing. Snyder really crammed the explanation into a short window, there, at the very, very end. I loved this book, but it probably would've been better with a good two or three more issues in which to tell its tale. |
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Post by bookend57 on Nov 22, 2014 3:21:48 GMT -5
I think I'm going to re-read this series soon. It was my absolute favorite mini-series of 2013/2014. I've accepted Scott Snyder as my lord and savior
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But I think the caveman who was walled-off into the cave with the eye-gadget, I think the idea there was that he was the last human to still vaguely remember what was actually going on, and he was resisting the "forgetting", and he and his cave and the tiny bit of tech/energy that she found there all those millennia later seemed to be the key to the whole thing. Snyder really crammed the explanation into a short window, there, at the very, very end. I loved this book, but it probably would've been better with a good two or three more issues in which to tell its tale.