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Post by rgsc on Apr 17, 2014 12:03:05 GMT -5
[...] It might not have that much weight on the flashback story going on right now, but saying that Don't Ask Don't Tell is dated when it was only just abolished a couple of years ago is just ridiculous. It is more that references to DADT *date* the story that is the concern. He clarified his statement a bit in the comments at DC Women Kicking Ass. dcwomenkickingass.tumblr.com/post/82891150867/comics-to-read-4-16# I believe he was saying that focusing on DADT would make the story he is trying to tell less timeless by grounding it in a real-world situation that is now past - while, at the same time acknowledging (even if not always explicitly) that it is a part of the character's history. Given that the legislation existed in real time, and that it has been abolished for going on 3 years, references to it would date things very specifically. If the story that is being told does not line up with the real world chronology, then it would be useful to downplay it in the fictional universe. The quotation you provide continues: While I am not sure it will change your opinion on things, I think his position on DADT as it relates to Batwoman is more nuanced than comes across in that interview.
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Post by iamasianbatgirl on Apr 17, 2014 19:31:00 GMT -5
Ah thankfully, he cleared that up! I'll probably get back to Batwoman eventually but still kind of burned by DC's treatment of the last creative team.
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Post by Simon on Apr 19, 2014 23:44:36 GMT -5
I just read Elegy. That is a great story. Art is pretty stunning too. I'll give Andreyko's run a trade when it comes out if it isn't too mired in what came before it.
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Post by pacino on May 23, 2014 20:27:47 GMT -5
Did anyone read the current issue? I really like how Andreyko is writing Kate. I honestly think it's a vast improvement over what JH was writing. Jeremy Haun is also really telling some great stories with his art and fighting sequencing. It's not as 'artsy', but it works really well.
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Post by rgsc on May 27, 2014 10:19:34 GMT -5
Did anyone read the current issue? I really like how Andreyko is writing Kate. I honestly think it's a vast improvement over what JH was writing. Jeremy Haun is also really telling some great stories with his art and fighting sequencing. It's not as 'artsy', but it works really well. Hey Pacino! I am glad to see I am not alone in the wilderness here liking the Andreyko/Haun run. I don't think it is as strong as the Rucka version (but give it time) and as much as I loved the Williams/Blackman run, it was not without its faults. It is a slightly different take on Kate (have you read the guest post over at DC Women Kicking Ass about the 3 takes on Batwoman? dcwomenkickingass.tumblr.com/post/83654599962/guest-post-batwoman-three-authors-three-kinds-of Well worth a read) & Andreyko is still becoming familiar with the character but the story has been good so far and only looks to get better. Yes, the art on the last run was AMAZING, but, here, the more linear story telling and clean art style work very well for the story being told. I am looking forward to getting back to battling the more supernatural elements in Gotham beginning with the next issue/arc.
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Post by pacino on May 28, 2014 9:53:18 GMT -5
Wow, such a great read! Thanks. It really gets to what I didn't find authentic about Williams' run.
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Post by rgsc on Oct 18, 2014 11:43:20 GMT -5
So issue #35 takes Batwoman to space...which is kind of weird, right? The Good: -the crazy team introduced in the Futures End book, which I assumed was a crazy "it might (but won't) happen 5 years from now" scenario actually is a thing. When Andreyko was starting the book and talking about bringing Batwoman closer into the larger DCU, I thought he was talking about Batman, not The Demon! -Georges Jeanty on art. Amazing...although the setting didn't give much room to show off his talent. I expect some gorgeous art in the next issue.
The not so good: -Batwoman in space? Seriously, wtf is that all about? This was the title that featured the supernatural in Gotham and I am way more interested in that than in SciFi stuff. -A lot of action, not a ton plot. We don't know where things stand with Kate's personal relationship(s). The next issues are going back to explain how we got to this point but it was pretty jarring change to just have been thrown into the deep end (deep space?). -Was Kate a little too quippy in spots?
I am interested in hanging on to see where this goes (err...see how it came to be?). I am hoping Andreyko finds his footing with the character soon as I am not sure he's quite there yet.
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Post by pacino on Oct 21, 2014 6:55:16 GMT -5
I thought #35 was a good story, but I didn't like the aspect of being thrust into the middle of it. i don't think it works here, at all, whereas with something like Avengers #35 there's a sufficient backstory that makes the timejump intriguing. This was too much a departure from the cliffhanger of #34, IMO.
Andreyko is one of my favorite writers, so I'm sticking with it and expect it to come full circle with the plot.
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