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Post by IncredibleD on Feb 14, 2014 9:09:18 GMT -5
Don't know if this is the right place for this thread and i don't know if there are any fans of wrestling here, but since there are so many other threads here about all kinds of stuff and since i've been a wrestling fan all my life i thought what the hell!
So i just wanted to make this a place to talk about all things wrestling(your favorite wrestlers, matches, feuds, promotions etc.) My favorite wrestler right now is Daniel Bryan(Yes!Yes!Yes!) but some of my other favorites are Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Eddie Guererro, the Undertaker, CM Punk, Kurt Angle, AJ Styles and Samoa Joe.
Wrestling will always hold a special place in my heart because it was something i always watched together with my dad who unfortunately passed away last year, so even if its really bad sometimes i will always keep on watching wrestling.
I was introduced to the world of wrestling when i was just a kid and i loved it ever since. Back then we always used to watch the old WWF shows over at my uncle's house and i loved everything about it, the gimmicks, the matches, everything. Then a few years later i started watching at my parents house with my dad(mostly TNA but also WWE).Even when i moved out of my parents house and got my own place we watched at least one show every weekend at my house.We watched hundreds if not thousands of shows together, even went to a couple of house shows with my dad and other family members in Germany, the last one was a couple of months before he died.Even though i miss my dad and i miss that time, i will always be grateful for those memories.
So that's my really long story, its just something i wanted to tell even though it was not easy.
Thank you.
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Post by wjohnson22 on Feb 14, 2014 14:13:15 GMT -5
Don't know if this is the right place for this thread and i don't know if there are any fans of wrestling here, but since there are so many other threads here about all kinds of stuff and since i've been a wrestling fan all my life i thought what the hell! So i just wanted to make this a place to talk about all things wrestling(your favorite wrestlers, matches, feuds, promotions etc.) My favorite wrestler right now is Daniel Bryan(Yes!Yes!Yes!) but some of my other favorites are Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Eddie Guererro, the Undertaker, CM Punk, Kurt Angle, AJ Styles and Samoa Joe. Wrestling will always hold a special place in my heart because it was something i always watched together with my dad who unfortunately passed away last year, so even if its really bad sometimes i will always keep on watching wrestling. I was introduced to the world of wrestling when i was just a kid and i loved it ever since. Back then we always used to watch the old WWF shows over at my uncle's house and i loved everything about it, the gimmicks, the matches, everything. Then a few years later i started watching at my parents house with my dad(mostly TNA but also WWE).Even when i moved out of my parents house and got my own place we watched at least one show every weekend at my house.We watched hundreds if not thousands of shows together, even went to a couple of house shows with my dad and other family members in Germany, the last one was a couple of months before he died.Even though i miss my dad and i miss that time, i will always be grateful for those memories. So that's my really long story, its just something i wanted to tell even though it was not easy. Thank you. Thanks for sharing! Whether it's baseball, wrestling, or something else, I'm amazed how strongly we can associate watching or participating in something with family, especially when that family member helped make you a fan. My parents did not want me to watch wrestling growing up, so of course I snuck downstairs after they went to bed to watch the last hour of Raw or Nitro. I was a teenager in the mid and late 90s during the height of the Monday Night Wars, great time to be a wrestling fan. During that time, I was a huge fan of Diamond Dallas Page, Goldberg, and Mankind. In college, I studied abroad in Mexico and went to some amazing Lucha Libre shows there and so now many of my favorites are luchadores like Rey Mysterio, Mil Mascaras, and Sin Cara. But I'm also on the Daniel Bryan train and am interested to see what happens with him on the road to Wrestlemania. I don't watch much TNA, but I'm a big Kurt Angle fan.
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Post by JediHunter66 on Feb 14, 2014 15:07:28 GMT -5
I used to be really into wrestling when I was younger, back in the Stone cold, Rock, Triple H, etc. days. I was all about Kane, dude was massive and he reminded me of something straight out of a horror film.
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Post by xtjmac510x on Feb 14, 2014 16:06:31 GMT -5
I knew this thread was going to happen sooner or later...
I've watched professional wrestling since I was 3 years old. One of the first memories I ever had was watching Owen Hart wrestle Bret Hart at Wrestlemania X with my grandfather. The first book I ever finished was "Have A Nice Day" by Mick Foley, a book I read so many times that the pages all fell out. No matter what else I did as a child, wrestling was always there. As I got older, I started to go back and watch classic matches from the 80s on VHS while still watching both sides of the Monday Night Wars every week.
By the time 2005 came around, WCW and ECW were kaput and the only wrestling show on TV was courtesy of the WWE. It was February of 2005 at 1:00 in the morning when I discovered a NEW wrestling show on Fox Sports Net. TNA Impact Wrestling. It honest to God changed my life. Wrestling at that point had become something I watched, but could skim through for the most part. I could miss a week or two and still feel like nothing's changed by the time I came back. It didn't mean there wasn't anything good, far from that, I'd just gotten tired of the same thing I'd watched for 11 years. But TNA reinvigorated my love of wrestling in a way I never thought was possible. I started buying all the DVDs and collections and really threw myself into this promotion that had only been around for 3 years at that point. I was in love all over again.
Then 2010 happened...Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff came to TNA and got rid of the shows individuality. No more 6 sided ring, no more focus on the X-Division and instead the company turned into WCW 2.0. The matches were still fantastic (and still are to this day) but that spark was gone and I felt myself more drawn to WWE again. I was still watching WWE at the time, but I became more invested in the weekly goings on than I had been before. Then I discovered Ring of Honor and the Indy circuit and I really fell in love with wrestling as a craft. The acting, the athleticism to perform these moves while protecting the safety of your opponent, all the technical sides of wrestling became more apparent to me than they had before. But I didn't always have a way to watch ROH or the Indy circuit, so I never really threw myself into it as I had WWE and TNA before it. I just learned to respect the industry more.
Now I'm 22 years old (23 in May) and I still love wrestling. Now though it's more about the craft than it is anything else. I love watching WWE NXT and seeing rookies try out gimmicks and find their footing as wrestlers. I love watching some of my favorite Indy stars like CM Punk, Bryan Danielson (Daniel Bryan), Claudio Castagnoli (Antonio Cesaro), Tyler Black (Seth Rollins) and Dean Ambrose over in WWE while The American Wolves and Austin Aeries tear up TNA. I love seeing groups like The Wyatt Family deliver promos that would make Jake the Snake proud. I love watching the ROH simulcast every Thursday. While I may not watch any of the shows on TV anymore, Youtube (and the soon to launch WWE Network) Hulu and other assorted websites have given me a great way to stay invested, even 20 years after Bret and Owen fought at Wrestlemania.
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Post by Raider30 on Feb 14, 2014 23:14:58 GMT -5
Heyo,
Child of the 80's here. I loved watching the WWF cartoon on Saturday mornings and wresting with my dad. What's cool is there are quite a few good wrestling documentaries on Netflix and I've watched several in the past year. It's crazy how many guys pop up on screen and I'm bouncing in my seat going "there's the Iron Shiek, there's Dusty Rhodes, there's Ricky Steamboat" etc. So much fun was had.
Now I haven't watched wrestling in years, honestly because it just got too raunchy and sexualized and that's not something I want to expose my kids to. However, I can't recommend enough for people to check out Netflix and watch some of those awesome documentaries. There's a fantastic one on Bret Hart that goes into his whole background, wrestling family, and ultimately how he got screwed by Vince McMahon.
This topic makes me want to go watch some more documentaries, or at least The Princess Bride(Andre the Giant people!)
- Beau
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Post by IncredibleD on Feb 15, 2014 0:53:45 GMT -5
Don't know if this is the right place for this thread and i don't know if there are any fans of wrestling here, but since there are so many other threads here about all kinds of stuff and since i've been a wrestling fan all my life i thought what the hell! So i just wanted to make this a place to talk about all things wrestling(your favorite wrestlers, matches, feuds, promotions etc.) My favorite wrestler right now is Daniel Bryan(Yes!Yes!Yes!) but some of my other favorites are Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Eddie Guererro, the Undertaker, CM Punk, Kurt Angle, AJ Styles and Samoa Joe. Wrestling will always hold a special place in my heart because it was something i always watched together with my dad who unfortunately passed away last year, so even if its really bad sometimes i will always keep on watching wrestling. I was introduced to the world of wrestling when i was just a kid and i loved it ever since. Back then we always used to watch the old WWF shows over at my uncle's house and i loved everything about it, the gimmicks, the matches, everything. Then a few years later i started watching at my parents house with my dad(mostly TNA but also WWE).Even when i moved out of my parents house and got my own place we watched at least one show every weekend at my house.We watched hundreds if not thousands of shows together, even went to a couple of house shows with my dad and other family members in Germany, the last one was a couple of months before he died.Even though i miss my dad and i miss that time, i will always be grateful for those memories. So that's my really long story, its just something i wanted to tell even though it was not easy. Thank you. Thanks for sharing! Whether it's baseball, wrestling, or something else, I'm amazed how strongly we can associate watching or participating in something with family, especially when that family member helped make you a fan. My parents did not want me to watch wrestling growing up, so of course I snuck downstairs after they went to bed to watch the last hour of Raw or Nitro. I was a teenager in the mid and late 90s during the height of the Monday Night Wars, great time to be a wrestling fan. During that time, I was a huge fan of Diamond Dallas Page, Goldberg, and Mankind. In college, I studied abroad in Mexico and went to some amazing Lucha Libre shows there and so now many of my favorites are luchadores like Rey Mysterio, Mil Mascaras, and Sin Cara. But I'm also on the Daniel Bryan train and am interested to see what happens with him on the road to Wrestlemania. I don't watch much TNA, but I'm a big Kurt Angle fan. Yeah i agree, the Monday Night Wars was the best time to be a wrestling fan.At that time i could only watch WCW Nitro so i didn't really knew what was happening over at the WWF, years later i watched a lot of that. I remember first watching old WWF shows as a kid(the Hogan Era) around 92/93 and then a couple of years later around 97/98 i would first see an episode of Nitro and i thought what is this?The ultimate babyface Hulk Hogan was suddenly the biggest heel and he was the leader of this group called the NWO and they absolutely dominated back then and all of these guys i had never heard of like DDP, Sting and Goldberg and Ric Flair and his Four Horseman would fight against them, and of course you also had a great mid-card back then with guys like Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Jericho, Dean Malenko etc.
Unfortunately it would all be gone a few years later when WCW was bought by WWE but when that happened in 2001 i already stopped watching cause i thought their shows were terrible then.
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Post by xtjmac510x on Feb 15, 2014 1:24:16 GMT -5
WCW has always been an interesting company to me. It is the perfect example of a company that got too caught up in itself and its own politics to really focus on giving the fans what they want. In the early years of WCW, back when it was slaughtering WWF in the ratings, it was a simple company. Sure they had big names that would later go on to become legends, but their storytelling and characters were much more simple. They let the ring do the talking for the most part and when they did do a story, they built it up and built it up until the crowd was at a fever pitch come match time. Dean Malenko's feud with Chris Jericho is the best example of this. For MONTHS and MONTHS Jericho was giving Malenko crap. And when Malenko returned from his injury by surprising the WCW universe, the pop was the biggest I've heard in wrestling history. WCW knew how to do it right.
Then Vince Russo and Bischoff got greedy. The Attitude era was in full swing, DX was gaining ground and more importantly, WWF was winning in the ratings. It was then they went off the rails. Focusing more on the stars of the past, celebrities (David Arquette anyone?) and sex appeal to sell their company rather than meaningful storylines. And then Shane O Mac appeared at WCW and you knew that it was over. WWF had won, WCW had given up and that there was no going back. Sad as it may be, looking at it now, it was probably a mercy killing.
It's hard to really establish a "Best time to be a wrestling fan" for me. Every era has it's ups and downs. The 80s were big names doing big things in big ways. The 90s were the Monday Night Wars and the Attitude Era. 2001-2010 had the Ruthless Aggression Era, the rise of ROH and the beginning of TNA. Even now, there are still things worth loving, though it may take years to really appreciate it. Nostalgia is a strong thing. While there are definitely more downs than ups nowadays, I will never take anything away from the good that happens every week.
If nothing else, time and age has given me more opportunities to appreciate the little things. Or maybe I'm just an optimist trying to find reasons to keep believing in the sport my grandfather introduced me to all those years ago.
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Post by xtjmac510x on Feb 15, 2014 1:26:50 GMT -5
I apologize for both of those really long posts. I'm passionate about wrestling and have spent a good 4-5 years really studying it and everything that goes into it. I also have no friends that like it and was often made fun of it all throughout school for enjoying it.
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Post by IncredibleD on Feb 15, 2014 2:02:55 GMT -5
I knew this thread was going to happen sooner or later... I've watched professional wrestling since I was 3 years old. One of the first memories I ever had was watching Owen Hart wrestle Bret Hart at Wrestlemania X with my grandfather. The first book I ever finished was "Have A Nice Day" by Mick Foley, a book I read so many times that the pages all fell out. No matter what else I did as a child, wrestling was always there. As I got older, I started to go back and watch classic matches from the 80s on VHS while still watching both sides of the Monday Night Wars every week. By the time 2005 came around, WCW and ECW were kaput and the only wrestling show on TV was courtesy of the WWE. It was February of 2005 at 1:00 in the morning when I discovered a NEW wrestling show on Fox Sports Net. TNA Impact Wrestling. It honest to God changed my life. Wrestling at that point had become something I watched, but could skim through for the most part. I could miss a week or two and still feel like nothing's changed by the time I came back. It didn't mean there wasn't anything good, far from that, I'd just gotten tired of the same thing I'd watched for 11 years. But TNA reinvigorated my love of wrestling in a way I never thought was possible. I started buying all the DVDs and collections and really threw myself into this promotion that had only been around for 3 years at that point. I was in love all over again. Then 2010 happened...Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff came to TNA and got rid of the shows individuality. No more 6 sided ring, no more focus on the X-Division and instead the company turned into WCW 2.0. The matches were still fantastic (and still are to this day) but that spark was gone and I felt myself more drawn to WWE again. I was still watching WWE at the time, but I became more invested in the weekly goings on than I had been before. Then I discovered Ring of Honor and the Indy circuit and I really fell in love with wrestling as a craft. The acting, the athleticism to perform these moves while protecting the safety of your opponent, all the technical sides of wrestling became more apparent to me than they had before. But I didn't always have a way to watch ROH or the Indy circuit, so I never really threw myself into it as I had WWE and TNA before it. I just learned to respect the industry more. Now I'm 22 years old (23 in May) and I still love wrestling. Now though it's more about the craft than it is anything else. I love watching WWE NXT and seeing rookies try out gimmicks and find their footing as wrestlers. I love watching some of my favorite Indy stars like CM Punk, Bryan Danielson (Daniel Bryan), Claudio Castagnoli (Antonio Cesaro), Tyler Black (Seth Rollins) and Dean Ambrose over in WWE while The American Wolves and Austin Aeries tear up TNA. I love seeing groups like The Wyatt Family deliver promos that would make Jake the Snake proud. I love watching the ROH simulcast every Thursday. While I may not watch any of the shows on TV anymore, Youtube (and the soon to launch WWE Network) Hulu and other assorted websites have given me a great way to stay invested, even 20 years after Bret and Owen fought at Wrestlemania. Great story. I stopped watching TNA completely about half a year ago when my dad got sick, it was just our thing and i didn't want to watch it without him. Thought about watching it again recently but then i heard about AJ Styles leaving who in my opinion IS TNA and the push that Magnus who i never liked is getting right now and i think i'm gonna pass.
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Post by IncredibleD on Feb 15, 2014 2:13:47 GMT -5
I apologize for both of those really long posts. I'm passionate about wrestling and have spent a good 4-5 years really studying it and everything that goes into it. I also have no friends that like it and was often made fun of it all throughout school for enjoying it. No need apologizing for that. Its the same way for me, that's the reason i made this thread.So talk all you want.
And i agree with what you said about WCW in your previous post, they were their own downfall. And that Dean Malenko/Jericho feud was great, i remember there was some kind of battle royal with mostly luchadores in it.And the winner would face Jericho for his championship and it was won by unknown masked wrestler, who then turned out to be Malenko.And he faced Jericho and won the championship.Amazing in-ring storytelling!
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Post by IncredibleD on Feb 17, 2014 0:34:28 GMT -5
Oh and that WWE Network sounds really really great, all those old and new shows, PPV's for only ten dollars or something...wow. Unfortunately i don't live in the States so i'm afraid i can't get it any time soon.
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Post by monkeywithamonocle on Feb 17, 2014 11:33:02 GMT -5
I'll weigh in on this one. I've been into my wrestling since the late 80's/early 90's - it used to be every Saturday on ITV, then my Dad started taking me to Cleethorpes Memorial Hall where I saw the likes of Fit Finlay, Steven Regal (you know him as William), Kendo Nagasaki and others.
We then got Sky and I finally got to see WWF TV and following Wrestlemania 8 I was hooked and would watch it as much as I could. Over the years my favourites have included Bret Hart, Rowdy Roddy Piper, Chris Jericho, Owen Hart, Edge, Christian, Mick Foley, and in more recent times Brian Kendrick, Motor City Machine Guns, AJ Styles, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Dean Ambrose and Cody Rhodes/
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Post by wjohnson22 on Feb 17, 2014 13:41:10 GMT -5
Nice to see so many other wrestling fans! As far as current angles, what do folks think of the The Wyatt Family and The Shield? Seems like a lot of the future of the WWE is going to be on the shoulders of folks in these stables. I'm pretty excited for their match at Elimination Chamber in a week. Will The Shield break up? Will The Wyatts attack John Cena during the chamber match? Should be fun.
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Post by IncredibleD on Feb 17, 2014 14:29:00 GMT -5
Nice to see so many other wrestling fans! As far as current angles, what do folks think of the The Wyatt Family and The Shield? Seems like a lot of the future of the WWE is going to be on the shoulders of folks in these stables. I'm pretty excited for their match at Elimination Chamber in a week. Will The Shield break up? Will The Wyatts attack John Cena during the chamber match? Should be fun. Those two groups are two of the best things in wrestling right now in my opinion, especially The Shield. Hate to see them breaking up, but its gonna happen sooner or later i think.I think they're gonna turn Roman Reigns face and let him feud against the other two, since he seems to be so over at the moment.
As for the Wyatts, i think they are great too.The first time i saw them on NXT i knew they could be big. At first i thought they wouldn't get much of a push, but it seems like they are getting a big push now after the feud with Bryan and a possible feud with Cena of all people
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Post by monkeywithamonocle on Feb 18, 2014 5:18:43 GMT -5
I do love me some Shield but I can see the break-up happening this weekend and Mania having Reigns vs Ambrose vs Rollins for the US belt
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