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Post by Huw on Sept 23, 2015 17:08:52 GMT -5
Issue #202: Tokyo Ghost #1, Black Panther and Representation in Comics
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What do we think of Black Panther’s new on-going series, what is the Talking Comics verdict on Tokyo Ghost #1 from Rick Remender and Sean Murphy, and just how good are Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale on Captain America: White? All this plus SHIELD one shots, B.P.R.D. and the glory on Constantine: Hellblazer on the Talking Comics Podcast!
If you want to read the article we discussed from the AV Club you can find it here and be sure to read the excellent NY Times article about new Black Panther writer Ta-Nehisi Coates.
Lightning Round
Sex Criminals, Black Canary, Constantine: Hellblazer, SHIELD: Agent Carter, Mockingbird, Martian Manhunter, and Spider-Island.
Book of the Week
Battleworld: Secret Wars Journal #6, BPRD: A Plague of Frogs Vol. 1, Captain America White.
Shared Book of the Week
This week’s #TCBOTW is Tokyo Ghost #1 from Rick Remender, Sean Murphy, and Matt Hollingsworth.
Next week’s #TCBOTW is Scooby Doo Team Up #12.
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Post by BarefootRoot on Sept 24, 2015 8:04:33 GMT -5
anyone else notice the Black Science pinball machine in Tokyo Ghost?
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Post by John D. on Sept 25, 2015 8:39:19 GMT -5
I thoroughly enjoyed the talk about the Agent Carter and women's representation in comics article, however, my only trouble with reading that article was that it was almost written as a defense for Immonen when she herself had no say. Unless she came out publically to talk about her place in Marvel and in comics in general, the writer is only defending someone who may not need defending. As Bobby said at one point, maybe those opportunities were presented to her and she passed on them. Don't get me wrong, that "boy's club" that everyone on the show was talking about still appears to be a huge problem. But, don't forget that Marvel promoted the HELL out of Ms. Marvel and Captain Marvel during their respective relaunches, and while Immonen's Journey Into Mystery run wasn't renumbered as it should have been and lacked any kind of promotion, was Gillen's promoted at all either when he took over? The article does make a lot of great points and the use of the Agent Carter comic is very very strong, however, it's written for someone that may or may not have even intended the comic to be that. (But maybe I missed an interview where she said that's exactly what it was?)
While on the subject, and this is a serious question, why is Image never thrown under the proverbial bus for not having an abundance of female writers/artists as well? I get that Marvel and DC have shady practices when it comes to hiring known harassers (which Image does too!) and the big two are the only ones that really have high-priority books that they can give to female talents, but whenever Image Expo rolls around, the announcements appear to also be primarily male as well. So why does Image get off the hook for that? Again, it's a serious question and I'm curious what people think about that.
Oh, and as far as Gotham, I jumped off that train after 19 episodes and I actually watched the first episode of this season. Honestly, if you can look at it as its own thing, a "camp universe" as a friend of mine put it to me, it's enjoyable. You have to take the Grant Morrison approach of that this Batman universe exists at the same time as the Batman '66 universe or the Nolan-verse, even though none of those things are alike at all. Also, Gotham has taken steps toward making despicable characters into something actually interesting (like Barbara) unlike Arrow where they just forced Laurel to be Black Canary even though the majority of fans didn't like her (and still don't). I'm not saying Gotham is better than Arrow, but if it is allowed to completely come off the rails and try something new, it can actually be better than its very, very, very rocky first season.
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Post by Bob Reyer on Sept 26, 2015 7:36:41 GMT -5
John, You're certainly correct in saying that the original article could be seen as taking up the gauntlets in someone else's defense who might not have needed it, and that is probably its weakest element. The more generalized issues raised by using Ms. Immonen's work as a jumping-off point make for an interesting topic of conversation, and something the industry, and we consumers, need to think about in terms of what books and creators to throw our dollars behind. At the Image Expos, it does seem that the only woman around is Kelly Sue DeConnick, but there are quite a few female creators plying their wares on their books, and certainly at a higher percentage than either of the Big Two, but as you say, despite all the accolades for titles such as Saga or Pretty Deadly, those are not Batman or Spider-Man, at least in terms of general public knowledge. ps) Here's a link to a post from Tim Hanley that has some interesting stats about Image's creative talent pool. rrr
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Post by Fitgnat on Sept 26, 2015 18:07:36 GMT -5
Just thought I'd pop on here to comment on Bobby referring to Chris Sims as a "known harasser of women". Not hating on Bobby, I just remember the event he was probably referring to and think it may have been a poor choice of words. Saying it that way makes it sound like he harasses women all the time, which is not the case. For anyone that only knows of Chris Sims as the writer of X-Men '92, he also writes for the website ComicsAlliance. Here's the statement they put out about his harassment of Val D'Orazio. comicsalliance.com/statement-regarding-chris-sims-val-dorazio/He also does a podcast called War Rocket Ajax (which I'm a fan of) that seems to have female creators on as guests every other week. It's easy to get the wrong impression of someone based on things like this and have it spread, even unintentionally. I just don't want that to happen here and have people not buy X-Men '92 or support Chris' other work as a result.
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