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Ody-C
Dec 1, 2014 16:07:10 GMT -5
Post by henrythemorerecent on Dec 1, 2014 16:07:10 GMT -5
Anyone else pick this up?
I'm a huge fan of Matt Fraction and I love Greek mythology, but this was a bit of a disappointment. Read like somebody trying to be Grant Morrison without succeeding. Which is strange because Fractions Defenders is crazy out-there but still has great character moments and makes sense. But this kind of felt like a crazy idea they had that they quickly sent to print without fleshing it out.
I don't know if anyone else did this when they were kids where you "re-wrote" a story by replacing words and sentences to try make it sound silly and nonsensical? This is what I kind of felt like while reading this.
The characters in the Illiad and Odyssey are so interesting and ripe for adaptation, but in this I didn't know who was who and why in this and I know the Odyssey story very well. Considering that huge fold out in the front, that should have been extra clear. But thats just me. And it's a concept I want to like, so I feel like getting a positive viewpoint on it might help.
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Ody-C
Dec 2, 2014 6:03:33 GMT -5
Post by Tony on Dec 2, 2014 6:03:33 GMT -5
I finally just got to it (took me much longer than usual to get to my weekly books 'cause of the holiday week), and man, I LOVED it. It's funny, even though i've been fairly drooling with anticipation for this book for most of the year, I ended up in more of a state of trepidation than anything in the last few days because the three short bits of review i'd seen on it (two good friends and you as well, Henry) all used the same exact phrase to describe this #1: some variation of a little "disappointing". So even before I opened that magnificent fold-out (which, honestly, is damn-near worth the price of the book all on its own) and began the journey, i'd already ridden months of preemptive highs and a couple of days of nervy lows, which left me in an uncomfortably weightless, shaky place, with unsure footing and more than one concern in the back of my mind. Turns out I needn't have worried!
I've never before read a book drawn by Christian Ward, but i've been marveling at the preview pages and panels and character designs for what seems like all year, thinking that they look like a cross between Moebius and Low's Greg Tocchini, and for the most part what I saw in this first issue is very much a confirmation of that aesthetic. I mean, look, he's not quite the once-in-a-lifetime pulsar that Moebius was, but no-one is nor will ever be. But the brash, colorful, dizzying, ridiculously unique style is breathtaking, and fits the cosmic star-faring myth subject matter to a T. And although there was a line or two in the script that gave me a very brief pause, I felt like Fraction's approach towards trying to fit into the Homeric rhythm and style (to some degree, at least) also just felt . . right. I've long loved the Illiad and The Odyssey and I spent much of my childhood and since devouring myths, especially of the Grecian variety, and this #1 felt like a homerun to me in just about every way. Can't wait to see what the next song sounds like.
Also, I couldn't help but feel like this is a direct reaction of Fraction's to his wife's and Emma Rios' Pretty Deadly; it felt extremely similar in more than one way. The broad, somewhat clipped and abstract, very artistic, more-poetic-than-usual writing style, the overt mythic themes, and the pairing with stunning, intricate, dazzling, non-traditional artwork . . it seems very much like he's been heavily influenced by Kelly Sue and Emma, and of course who could blame him. If this is Matt Fraction pushing his boundaries, then more power to him. Too, I would characterize the strength of Pretty Deadly as 75% art/25% writing/poetry (which is not meant in any way as a knock on Kelly Sue, but rather a testament to Emma), and i've said more than once that the art in that series would be worth it all on its own, and Ody-C #1 gave me that exact same feel. The writing is pretty good, but the heavy lifting is on Ward, here, and so far it looks like that's going to work just fine.
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Ody-C
Dec 2, 2014 7:39:11 GMT -5
Post by pacino on Dec 2, 2014 7:39:11 GMT -5
If it's a reaction to Pretty Deadly, that explains why I don't like this, either. I thought the art was muddled, dark despite the bright colors, and the story felt unnecessarily abstract and the dialogue felt forced. I guess I'm just not into this kind of stuff.
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Ody-C
Dec 2, 2014 8:21:21 GMT -5
Tony likes this
Post by CaptainSuperior on Dec 2, 2014 8:21:21 GMT -5
I think you really have to like the style he is going for to appreciate this book. He is using The Muse to narrate the action, which is very uncommon for something like comics, but very true to the original text. The only thing I felt was off was the cast of characters being all female felt extremely forced and it caused some confusion in the dialogue.
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Post by Turk on Dec 2, 2014 15:51:08 GMT -5
I was excited to buy it based on the description of the book on Comixology. I read about the first 5 pages and realized that I had no idea what was happening so I read the first 5 pages again and still nothing. I subsequently moved on. I was way bummed. I liked the art and I like Matt Fraction but this was just too "over my head". I'll admit that I don't catch on to things really fast but I also don't want to try so hard to enjoy a book. I wanted to and still want to love it...i just dont.
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Post by bpp on Dec 4, 2014 14:41:21 GMT -5
Came off like a 'quick, what can replace Prophet!'
It was fine, very deliberately 70s Heavy Metal in styling but the whole narrative tone I found pretty distancing and could care less about the 'drama' of the nay-sayer. It'll do well because of the names and the publisher but it's not all that. Overall a disappointment.
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Post by toxicsooner on Dec 4, 2014 19:05:37 GMT -5
I checked it out & it left me feeling...meh...I went back and read it again after listening to the podcast, thinking I missed something & still felt the same.
Writing is fine, art is cool...it just didn't grab me...I will probably be passing on this one, maybe trade wait it.
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Ody-C
Dec 11, 2014 8:05:07 GMT -5
Tony likes this
Post by lennyreid on Dec 11, 2014 8:05:07 GMT -5
Really enjoyed it this end. Still need to go back to fully appreciate the art as it is a book that requires your full attention and the dialogue was enough to chew on for the moment.
I imagine a lot of people - including myself - were expecting a gender-swap/space-based version of the story as was translated for us as younglings but were confronted with a heavily researched, beautifully rendered, and merciless adaptation.
Very interesting to see the comparison with Pretty Deadly from people. I'd agree to a degree but the tone of Pretty Deadly was like a child whispering an incredible story to you over a haunting Western soundtrack; ODY-C is like Kathy Bates in full body armour screaming the Odyssey at you over a Muse breakdown... all good things for me.
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